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Single: Nicki Minaj - "Pills N Potions"
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Originally posted by JessicaVanessa
Some of yall really need to start stanning for REAL flops, to see how flopping is really done.
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I think some people expected her to do big digital and streaming numbers out the gate. It's a slow and steady process with Nicki, generally.
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Originally posted by JessicaVanessa
Some of yall really need to start stanning for REAL flops, to see how flopping is really done.
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#REALTALK
Some of my faves WISH they could have a stable single like PnP on iTunes and wish they could have a single crack the Top 40 like PnP will most likely do w/ this week's Billboard update.
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Originally posted by Blv2012
Should I be worried about the Itunes position??😳😳
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No?
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Originally posted by EastCoastTM
There's literally 3 or 4 Barbz that think realistically when it comes to Nicki Minaj as an artist. |
I like that she causes so much "confusion" between her fan base. It's amazing how versatile she is.
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Originally posted by SneakerNerd
I think some people expected her to do big digital and streaming numbers out the gate. It's a slow and steady process with Nicki, generally.
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I expected that, but I'm not a bitter becky, she still has 4 more days. 1 million is actually great for one day with a song that isnt even a top 20 on itunes or billboard chart.
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Originally posted by King Maxx
You say stuff like this like we're dumb. We're aware of the music industry. You stay in the UK right? When we bring up music, charts, etc., we're mainly talking the US. EDM is NOT big here like 2 years ago. More urban influenced songs are taking over like Blurred Lines, Wiggle, Talk Dirty, Dark Horse, All Me, etc.
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You still don't get my point. Have a think about it.
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Originally posted by CODE: RED
You still don't get my point. Have a think about it.
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I understand what you're saying. I think everyone is referring to the charts, as in the Hot 100, while you're referring to the profitability of the genre itself.
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Originally posted by SneakerNerd
I think some people expected her to do big digital and streaming numbers out the gate. It's a slow and steady process with Nicki, generally.
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Exactly. Alot of her songs have been slow gainers in the past.
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Originally posted by Aatthew
#REALTALK
Some of my faves WISH they could have a stable single like PnP on iTunes and wish they could have a single crack the Top 40 like PnP will most likely do w/ this week's Billboard update.
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I'm just here reading the madness and taking it in. POP GIRLS. Peaked at top 30 and fell off the 1000 in a matter of DAYS and Oniki has been stable for a week. That's amazing to me and a sign of her digital power.
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Originally posted by King Maxx
You say stuff like this like we're dumb. We're aware of the music industry. You stay in the UK right? When we bring up music, charts, etc., we're mainly talking the US. EDM is NOT big here like 2 years ago. More urban influenced songs are taking over like Blurred Lines, Wiggle, Talk Dirty, Dark Horse, All Me, etc.
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Exactly what I was trying to say.
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Originally posted by CODE: RED
You still don't get my point. Have a think about it.
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Originally posted by Diar7
Yeah, I think Tomorrowland sold like 300k tickets in the first hour. 
And I wasn't talking about "profit", I was talking in general. |
Read the bolded part.
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Originally posted by JessicaVanessa
I expected that, but I'm not a bitter becky, she still has 4 more days. 1 million is actually great for one day with a song that isnt even a top 20 on itunes or billboard chart.
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If you paid more attention to its radio performance you wouldn't even be worried about iTunes or Billboard, but you don't.
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Originally posted by SneakerNerd
Do you stan for Nicki's success? How would you feel if the song didn't didn't go Top 40 or didn't go Platinum at all?
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Yes I stan for success, but not as much as the music. It depends on the situation also. It Nicki did all she could to promote it and it still flopped then I can't be mad because the GP doesn't like it. But if she didn't even try to promote it then I'd be very pissed. As long she satisfies me musically, I'm good.
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Some of y´all are missing the part where Youtube views are not even updated yet 
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Originally posted by Willy.
I understand what you're saying. I think everyone is referring to the charts, as in the Hot 100, while you're referring to the profitability of the genre itself.
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That's right!
So Disclosure for example are likely making a lot more money this week outside the Hot 100 Top 20, than say Chris Brown who is within Top 20.
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Fair warning: this rant was written on mobile and I might be delirious.
I've been thinking this since even before PNP came out, but it ties into why I think it's such a great lead single choice.
Basically, I just think we overestimate how much the GP knows about, cares about and pays attention to genres. Sure, the average person could probably tell the difference between (for example) heavy metal and dub step, but they're not so quick to label things like stans do. They don't come up with little monikers like "hip pop" or "crossover". They don't insist songs have elements of this genre or are influenced by that genre.
More than anything, the GP listen to songs for hooks (mostly lyrical hooks, but also melodic ones).
And that's what started the backlash in the PFRR era. The lyrics to Starships were incredibly stupid, to be blunt. Don't get me wrong, I love the song, but you can't avoid it. The chorus was just plain childish.
And that ties into why releasing Pills as the lead was such a smart move. It's not about hip-hop versus pop or mainstream versus urban or whatever. It's not about the crossover appeal (although I admit that helps).
The lyrics actually make sense. The chorus is catchy as hell, but still mature. The bridge is subtle and effective (albeit rather simple). And the verses are air tight.
Sure, there might be a vocal minority in the GP who are turned off by Dr. Luke's production, but overall I feel like the GP will really respond to the new sound Nicki has taken on in Pills. It'll do a lot to rehab her image after the damage done to it last era.
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Originally posted by CODE: RED
Aren't Summer and Latch the two of the most played songs in LA and NYC right now?!
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Latch is my SONG.
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Made the trending page on YT. 1.2 million views.
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Swangin, eyes closed just swangin
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Originally posted by EastCoastTM
If you paid more attention to its radio performance you wouldn't even be worried about iTunes or Billboard, but you don't. |
How do YOU know I don't pay attention to the radio updates. What are you even talking about?
I read all the updates that Willy puts up here along with Maxx. Who said I'm worried about the iTunes or Billboard positions? In this thread I'm the least worried about that now.
You can go and be shady somewhere else because I'm stating my opinion on the song just like the rest of us.
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Originally posted by MMMinaj
Made the trending page on YT. 1.2 million views.
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Oh wow. Three and a half hours until the 24 hour mark is up.
I predicted 2-3M, so 
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