They won't, they wouldn't be financing a tour if they were. Plus she only has one more album under contract with them.
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Ok here is how this thread has gone:
Person A: Raven flopped hahahahahaha
Person B: At least she is better than [fill in artist]
Person C: WTF are you talking about? [Fill in artist] has more talent in 1 finger than your precious Raven.
...
And the argument continues changing no ones opinion who was already on either side. I've never listened to Raven (and don't plan on) and I'm sure many of you arguing here haven't either. Every artist appeals to someone somewhere (in this case, Afterglow ).
I hope for her next album, she goes for more mature music. Also, I want her to cut all ties with the Disney Channel, she needs to get her ass out there and promote. I don't really like her music, but I don't like seeing her flop like this.
I hope for her next album, she goes for more mature music. Also, I want her to cut all ties with the Disney Channel, she needs to get her ass out there and promote. I don't really like her music, but I don't like seeing her flop like this.
I don't think she can get any more mature than this album unless she goes for something like Amy Winehouse. I mean, she's saying stuff like "**** you" in this album, and the beats are as mature as it gets. That's why the fans and I really wanted this album to get promoted, she wanted it promoted as well. That's why she didn't write, she wanted radio play and more recognition for her music career. Her vocals on this album are amazing, just listen to "Love Me Or Leave Me", and anyone would how amazing a singer she is. It's an amazing album that won't be recognized unfortunately.
I don't think she can get any more mature than this album unless she goes for something like Amy Winehouse. I mean, she's saying stuff like "**** you" in this album, and the beats are as mature as it gets. That's why the fans and I really wanted this album to get promoted, she wanted it promoted as well. That's why she didn't write, she wanted radio play and more recognition for her music career. Her vocals on this album are amazing, just listen to "Love Me Or Leave Me", and anyone would how amazing a singer she is. It's an amazing album that won't be recognized unfortunately.
I don't think she can get any more mature than this album unless she goes for something like Amy Winehouse. I mean, she's saying stuff like "**** you" in this album, and the beats are as mature as it gets. That's why the fans and I really wanted this album to get promoted, she wanted it promoted as well. That's why she didn't write, she wanted radio play and more recognition for her music career. Her vocals on this album are amazing, just listen to "Love Me Or Leave Me", and anyone would how amazing a singer she is. It's an amazing album that won't be recognized unfortunately.
Since when does "**** You" equal mature music?
That sounds and looks like watching Disney channel in 1993. Even Miley Cyrus sounds more "mature" than this. LFR. You can't get any more delusional.
Even Miley Cyrus sounds more "mature" than this.[/IMG]
Wow. Come off your high Madonna horse and stop stalking people. Afterglow came off you a long time ago and you just keep going. Now you'll say something my way but W/E. I liked Raven's album, it is a more mature approach, but I'm not going to defend every action she does. i don't know her and I am not gonna throw my credibility and sanity on the line. I enjoy music but I don't have the time to be a stan.
I don't think she can get any more mature than this album unless she goes for something like Amy Winehouse. I mean, she's saying stuff like "**** you" in this album, and the beats are as mature as it gets. That's why the fans and I really wanted this album to get promoted, she wanted it promoted as well. That's why she didn't write, she wanted radio play and more recognition for her music career. Her vocals on this album are amazing, just listen to "Love Me Or Leave Me", and anyone would how amazing a singer she is. It's an amazing album that won't be recognized unfortunately.
**** you is far from mature honey.
Anyways, this thread is STILL going? She never had a real music career anyways so...
^Now THAT'S what im talking about! Sorry, that ***** on Miley's stuff. Just my opinion. Oh, and it ***** on 'Double Dutch Bus' as well.
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**** you is far from mature honey.
Anyways, this thread is STILL going? She never had a real music career anyways so...
I wasn't saying "**** You" is mature, I was saying that the album is far from "Disney/Kiddie" material.
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I have to agree "7 Things" and even "See You Again" are alot more "mature" than "Double Dutch Bus"
Of course they are, those are for an actual album. Now comparing "Double Dutch Bus" (a 90's remake + Disney soundtrack song) to a mainstream pop album from the 2000's doesn't sound right nor fair to me. How about we compare an album track from Raven's album to a song from today? Now that's a fair comparison to me.
Of course they are, those are for an actual album. Now comparing "Double Dutch Bus" (a 90's remake + Disney soundtrack song) to a mainstream pop album from the 2000's doesn't sound right nor fair to me. How about we compare an album track from Raven's album to a song from today? Now that's a fair comparison to me.
I have no idea how much longer your going to deny "Double Dutch Bus" served as a some what first single for the album
and that first single compared to 7 Things? yea it gets owned...
I have no idea how much longer your going to deny "Double Dutch Bus" served as a some what first single for the album
and that first single compared to 7 Things? yea it gets owned...
"Double Dutch Bus" will and will forever be promotion for "College Road Trip", it had the movie clips in the video, when it played it said "From the Walt Disney Picture 'College Road Trip', nothing about "Raven~Symone", and it was never mentioned as the first single. It was never even released to BET or MTV or radio. Not an album single. Hollywood Records even said that they were planning a "first single for Raven~Symone" awhile ago. So not even the label thought of it as a first single.
"7 Things" is a hot mess. I'd rather listen to "Some Call It Magic"
Exactly. The entire time actually, the first single (while DDB was released) was supposed to be "In The Pictures", that was confirmed by Raven's management or her label or somethinng. But it was cancelled for no reason. Then it was supposed to be "Anti-Love Song", but idk what's going on.
"Double Dutch Bus" will and will forever be promotion for "College Road Trip", it had the movie clips in the video, when it played it said "From the Walt Disney Picture 'College Road Trip', nothing about "Raven~Symone", and it was never mentioned as the first single. It was never even released to BET or MTV or radio. Not an album single. Hollywood Records even said that they were planning a "first single for Raven~Symone" awhile ago. So not even the label thought of it as a first single.
"7 Things" is a hot mess. I'd rather listen to "Some Call It Magic"
I don't know raven on a person level, nor have I ever claimed to. BUT I know her management team and EVERYONE around her business wise enough to know her more then any other typical fan.
You are just to obsessed with her to see anything.
Of course she is going to say she made this album for the fans, I mean what was she going to do? not make it and pay up for breaking her contract? PLEASE that is about as ignorant as raven begging her fans to call in radio stations and tell them she has an album but what is she currently doing? nothing. She has all the time in the world to call radio stations and tell them, radio dj's love that.
Alot of these people are right, Raven is flopped and know one cares anymore but a few hundred people.
AND her concert isn't being paid by DISNEY, its a contract between RAVEN and SIX FLAGS!
sheesh, remember her real concert was canceled because she couldn't sell tickets, so now she is doing her little gig she had set up for her before her arena tour was even announced.
For a raven fan who thinks he knows what he is talking about you sure don't know much.
once again though, I didn't expect much anyway.
Raven has zero marketable attributions except for "big girls" and I am sorry, that may be ok anywhere BUT America to promote obesity. (which raven is not but she is fat) When I met her twice you could tell she was fat, not thick. There is a difference.
her ass is just to lazy to get up and go to the gym or whatever.
Madonna and britney spears are marketable because they have appeal to EVERYONE. THAT is talent, if it wasn't there was be so many more successful young women in this business.
Exactly. The entire time actually, the first single (while DDB was released) was supposed to be "In The Pictures", that was confirmed by Raven's management or her label or somethinng. But it was cancelled for no reason. Then it was supposed to be "Anti-Love Song", but idk what's going on.
it was NEVER confirmed by her management that In the Pictures would be a single, who told you this? them fools didn't know WHAT they were going to do. Just a bunch of rumors from little fans said that crap.
I don't know raven on a person level, nor have I ever claimed to. BUT I know her management team and EVERYONE around her business wise enough to know her more then any other typical fan.
You are just to obsessed with her to see anything.
Of course she is going to say she made this album for the fans, I mean what was she going to do? not make it and pay up for breaking her contract? PLEASE that is about as ignorant as raven begging her fans to call in radio stations and tell them she has an album but what is she currently doing? nothing. She has all the time in the world to call radio stations and tell them, radio dj's love that.
Alot of these people are right, Raven is flopped and know one cares anymore but a few hundred people.
AND her concert isn't being paid by DISNEY, its a contract between RAVEN and SIX FLAGS!
sheesh, remember her real concert was canceled because she couldn't sell tickets, so now she is doing her little gig she had set up for her before her arena tour was even announced.
For a raven fan who thinks he knows what he is talking about you sure don't know much.
once again though, I didn't expect much anyway.
Raven has zero marketable attributions except for "big girls" and I am sorry, that may be ok anywhere BUT America to promote obesity. (which raven is not but she is fat) When I met her twice you could tell she was fat, not thick. There is a difference.
her ass is just to lazy to get up and go to the gym or whatever.
Madonna and britney spears are marketable because they have appeal to EVERYONE. THAT is talent, if it wasn't there was be so many more successful young women in this business.
How can it be a contract between Raven and Six Flags when "Six Flags" doesn't have property rights at any of the dates besides the 6 dates? The only thing they could do is give her money to perform at the other dates, but they aren't doing that either becuase it says at some dates "Sponsored by Disney" [insert establishment]? What you said isn't true in the least unless Six Flags has some partnership with Disney.
Six Flags would of course have a contract with Raven for THEY'RE dates though, as they do with the other artists and they're labels doing they're "summer concert series". Six Flags however can't manage her with other territories because they don't once again: Have property or any kind of rights there. Especially at independently owned locations like fairs/state fairs and other theme parks such as Visionland in Bessemer, Alabama.
I'm done talking to you though Mr. Derrick. I've made it on account more than once that I don't like you, here, on every site you've been talked about, and on Raven-Source forums. I have no respect for you or the way you just talked about a person in your post (im sure you could say the same for your fellings toward me) So if you have any ounce of decency in you, don't respond to me and let's end this thread here.
How can it be a contract between Raven and Six Flags when "Six Flags" doesn't have property rights at any of the dates besides the 6 dates? The only thing they could do is give her money to perform at the other dates, but they aren't doing that either becuase it says at some dates "Sponsored by Disney" [insert establishment]? What you said isn't true in the least unless Six Flags has some partnership with Disney.
Six Flags would of course have a contract with Raven for THEY'RE dates though, as they do with the other artists and they're labels doing they're "summer concert series". Six Flags however can't manage her with other territories because they don't once again: Have property or any kind of rights there. Especially at independently owned locations like fairs/state fairs and other theme parks such as Visionland in Bessemer, Alabama.
I'm done talking to you though Mr. Derrick. I've made it on account more than once that I don't like you, here, on every site you've been talked about, and on Raven-Source forums. I have no respect for you or the way you just talked about a person in your post (im sure you could say the same for your fellings toward me) So if you have any ounce of decency in you, don't respond to me and let's end this thread here.
Those other dates NOT from six flags is of course NOT being paid out by them.
Raven's management set that up, Which means SHE is being paid for her appearance.
It's no different then no bodies paying her to show up at their birthday IF they can afford it. WHICH her asking price isn't that bad for who she is.
I have no issue with you, you just don't like people who speak their mind which I do. I am fine with you. But don't have no respect for me when you do not even know the story as to WHY I am done with Raven. I haven't told anyone and use your own wisdom and don't hate someone if you don't know them. Which you don't know me and I don't know you.
I am fine with this thread dying, I have said my two words and i wouldn't need to if you were not complaining about nothing.
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are alot more "mature" than "Double Dutch Bus" 
