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Fan Base: Archived: Lady Gaga (#2)
Member Since: 4/22/2012
Posts: 15,844
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Originally posted by Demise
what is this? a standard deviation of 48?
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Let me calculate it on R commander real quick
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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Originally posted by NaughtyDog
yall forgetting about ARTPOP sales
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As long as the price is $15 it's done selling
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by nick4bty
It's probably going to be #1 in the U.S. through the first half of summer. It's depressing because the song sucks
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It's overrated af.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by NaughtyDog
yall forgetting about ARTPOP sales
thats what GUY's purpose should be, help push it to plat |
the album is too expensive anyway.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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It's truly sad that "Happy" can be that big but not Applause 
Even though I think it's because Gaga's lyrics don't appeal to the masses tbh. Either way, let's just hope the public loves G.U.Y. as much as we do. It's a nice song and I would love to see it doing well.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
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Originally posted by TanguyMonsterr
the album is too expensive anyway.
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They're insane for not having discounted it yet.
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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I kinda love this. But where is she and what is she doing right now 
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by Whiskey Mouth
It's truly sad that "Happy" can be that big but not Applause
Even though I think it's because Gaga's lyrics don't appeal to the masses tbh. Either way, let's just hope the public loves G.U.Y. as much as we do. It's a nice song and I would love to see it doing well. |
I don't understand what the GP likes anymore 
Happy does amazing and breaks records (I do bop a biT to it though), but then they also love Dark Horse, could they be any more different 
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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Originally posted by Whiskey Mouth
It's truly sad that "Happy" can be that big but not Applause
Even though I think it's because Gaga's lyrics don't appeal to the masses tbh. Either way, let's just hope the public loves G.U.Y. as much as we do. It's a nice song and I would love to see it doing well. |
It's just because Happy is being played on every single radio format possible. And on most formats it's #1, already hit #1, or about to hit #1. There's no way any Gaga song would ever have that type of mass appeal.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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The icing on the cake would be an album discount.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by Alchemist
The icing on the cake would be an album discount.
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Album discount with a new iTunes banner of that new picture
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by MysticNight
Album discount with a new iTunes banner of that new picture |
Yes! maybe they will when the video drops or the song impacts radio.
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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Originally posted by MysticNight
Album discount with a new iTunes banner of that new picture |
That would push ARTPOP right up the chart
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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They really do need an album discount. Every single time they've discounted it some, it's shot up iTunes.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
They really do need an album discount. Every single time they've discounted it some, it's shot up iTunes.
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I remember ARTPOP going Top 10 when it costed like $7 (it was even higher than PRISM for the same price) and as soon as they put the normal price back, it fell quicker than everything i've ever seen. mess.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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http://billwerde.tumblr.com/post/803...p-that-are-too
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A handful of Gaga fans and others who seem to randomly enjoy theatrics have regularly misconstrued level, critical thinking as Gaga attacks. I will say, the thing I do regret is taking to Twitter once and chiding Gaga about tweeting a link that went to a playlist of her video on repeat in order to influence play counts and charts; at that moment I hadn’t yet realized it was something a few other artists were doing/had done. Nor did I fully realize that YouTube’s spam detection eliminated suspicious plays.
The truth is, I’m a fan of Lady Gaga’s. I caught her show at Radio City back in the day, and I think two different tours at the Garden. She has a strong voice, a great persona for performance and at times has demonstrated a penchant for writing viciously catchy and fun pop songs. I’ve listened to everything she’s released and generally really respect her for having the will and resolve to follow her own muse. She makes pop interesting in a way that few other stars have the cajones (or desire) to think about. And lately it has been painful to watch media big and small hyperinflate every drama, real (the album isn’t her strongest work, indecision around single choices, personnel changes in her camp) or imagined (that ridiculous, fabricated $25 million ArtPop marketing number; possibly the notion that her tour isn’t selling as well).
But just because many in media are misrepresenting details or piling on doesn’t mean I can’t honestly think - and share my opinion - that this album doesn’t represent her strongest work. You can say that she doesn’t care about her songs charting and that her fans don’t care either, and if that’s true that’s totally cool. There’s lots of different ways to have a career in music these days, and certainly, there are options besides being a globally successful pop star. But “charting” is just a scorecard of popularity, of commercial success. Her last two albums haven’t had hits the way her first two did. That doesn’t mean she won’t have albums again one day that galvanize mass audiences wherever they may be. But generally, if the hits don’t keep coming, the audiences at the shows start to dwindle. The budgets shrink. The productions shrink with the budgets, and that would be a shame, because her productions are pretty stunning usually.
Again, none of this is a forgone conclusion. Gaga still has lots of fans. And I have to believe the songwriter with a knack for delivering number one hits is still in there, and will rise again. When I Tweeted, in response to a question, that I thought maybe she should take a break, it’s partly because I’m tired of watching media pillorize her for taking the same risks that they used to cheer. And it’s partly because I don’t think the songs on this album are going to connect in a big way. And the more she keeps releasing big expensive videos and songs that don’t chart or dont chart well, the more the perception of failure grows (fair or not) and the deeper the hole is that she’ll need to dig from next time.
And of course there will be a next time. Acts like Weezer and Pink had been written off as “over” by media before returning to even greater heights. After she released “4” to middling sales and then was accused of taking too long to release another album, Beyoncé was all but pronounced as dead by a grumbling media - some just weeks before she rocked the pop universe with her surprise iTunes album. And lord knows, if Mariah could return from the Glitter era, we’ve learned anything is possible.
So yes, as I said on Twitter, if I was her manager, I’d recommend she reconsider making additional substantial expenditure on the songs on Artpop. Maybe release a new song or two, or commission some remixes if you need to generate some new excitement around the tour. Focus on creating an amazing tour. And then let people miss you for a little while, while you go find your creative muse and create a new album of your best work. That’s not me hating. That’s me pulling for Gaga. The pop world is way better with her in it.
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And lately it has been painful to watch media big and small hyperinflate every drama, real (the album isn’t her strongest work, indecision around single choices, personnel changes in her camp) or imagined (that ridiculous, fabricated $25 million ArtPop marketing number; possibly the notion that her tour isn’t selling as well).
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That doesn’t mean she won’t have albums again one day that galvanize mass audiences wherever they may be. But generally, if the hits don’t keep coming, the audiences at the shows start to dwindle. The budgets shrink. The productions shrink with the budgets, and that would be a shame, because her productions are pretty stunning usually.
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That’s me pulling for Gaga. The pop world is way better with her in it.
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Slay Billy, slay 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Well.. he didn't lie .
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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I can't say I agree with him that she should take a break (she basically did just take a break) but I appreciate what he had to say.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
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I still don't agree that she should leave this record behind yet, but I like his post quite a lot.
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