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News: Britain is sued by 14 Caribbean nations for slavery
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Not to mention, all the people from these countries are from slaves, without Alavert these country would not even exist
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Still bitter about the Falklands, hun?
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Please stop, as a fellow Brit comments like this make me embarassed. Imperialism is nothing to be proud about.
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Originally posted by Euan
Still bitter about the Falklands, hun?
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Anyway, I have no problem with this. Western nations still benefit from years of salvery and colonization, and the affected areas are still racked by the damaged caused. You can't just apologize and move on, it doesn't work like that.
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Originally posted by Euan
Still bitter about the Falklands, hun?
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This is not something to be gloating about 
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The ignorance in this thread 
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Originally posted by Artemisia
Anyway, I have no problem with this. Western nations still benefit from years of salvery and colonization, and the affected areas are still racked by the damaged caused. You can't just apologize and move on, it doesn't work like that.
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But it does because this cause will end up in nothing and people will move on
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Originally posted by Artemisia
Anyway, I have no problem with this. Western nations still benefit from years of salvery and colonization, and the affected areas are still racked by the damaged caused. You can't just apologize and move on, it doesn't work like that.
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Wow never saw it like that. Kinda true
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Originally posted by Chemical X.
There are a ton of people who want reparations from the US, but it will be a completely fruitless battle. This case will probably have the same outcome. Regardless, the majority of long-standing wealth in Europe and the US was earned from slavery. There are rich families today that earned their clout and wealth due to slavery. It sucks that that's the reality when so many African Slave descendants have less opportunities and face economic discrimination. I don't think this will end up happening, but I don't disagree with the sentiment  |
I do agree with what you are saying, and as devastating and abhorrent as slavery was (and still is), do you really think something which was abolished 200 years ago is completely responsible for the problems which exist in that region today? (as there is their main argument for reparations). Many European countries were utterly destroyed after a war which took place less than a century ago, but through sensible economic management they have managed to pull through and become more and more successful as the Caribbean countries' economies continue to be plagued by mismanagement, rampant inflation and widespread corruption. I don't think that slavery centuries ago is the primary reason for the failings of Caribbean countries today.
That said, good luck to them, but they have no legal argument to stand on as sadly slavery was legal then and Britain and other European countries violated no international laws...
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Impressed at your detailed knowledge of WW1 tbh 
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Originally posted by Euan
I do agree with what you are saying, and as devastating and abhorrent as slavery was (and still is), do you really think something which was abolished 200 years ago is completely responsible for the problems which exist in that region today? (as there is their main argument for reparations). Many European countries were utterly destroyed after a war which took place less than a century ago, but through sensible economic management they have managed to pull through and become more and more successful as the Caribbean countries' economies continue to be plagued by mismanagement, rampant inflation and widespread corruption. I don't think that slavery centuries ago is the primary reason for the failings of Caribbean countries today.
That said, good luck to them, but they have no legal argument to stand on as sadly slavery was legal then and Britain and other European countries violated no international laws... |
Why does it matter that if it's the primary cause? So long as you admit that it happened and that it was a problem, then their case has merit.
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Impressed at your detailed knowledge of WW1 tbh |
I can't believe I even remembered
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Originally posted by Euan
I do agree with what you are saying, and as devastating and abhorrent as slavery was (and still is), do you really think something which was abolished 200 years ago is completely responsible for the problems which exist in that region today? (as there is their main argument for reparations). Many European countries were utterly destroyed after a war which took place less than a century ago, but through sensible economic management they have managed to pull through and become more and more successful as the Caribbean countries' economies continue to be plagued by mismanagement, rampant inflation and widespread corruption. I don't think that slavery centuries ago is the primary reason for the failings of Caribbean countries today.
That said, good luck to them, but they have no legal argument to stand on as sadly slavery was legal then and Britain and other European countries violated no international laws... |
Doesn't the UK have an Ex post facto laws???
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Originally posted by Artemisia
Why does it matter that if it's the primary cause? So long as you admit that it happened and that it was a problem, then their case has merit.
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I just can't see the case going anywhere.
If anything, I think that slavery and its devastating consequences should be taught more in Western schools, and there should be more exhibits and museum highlighting what happened to educate us more on an era which benefited us so much at the expense of so many.
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And they aren't gonna sue the US aka the worst of em all 
Bye they ain't getting a single Euro from The Netherlands.
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Originally posted by Euan
I do agree with what you are saying, and as devastating and abhorrent as slavery was (and still is), do you really think something which was abolished 200 years ago is completely responsible for the problems which exist in that region today? (as there is their main argument for reparations). Many European countries were utterly destroyed after a war which took place less than a century ago, but through sensible economic management they have managed to pull through and become more and more successful as the Caribbean countries' economies continue to be plagued by mismanagement, rampant inflation and widespread corruption. I don't think that slavery centuries ago is the primary reason for the failings of Caribbean countries today.
That said, good luck to them, but they have no legal argument to stand on as sadly slavery was legal then and Britain and other European countries violated no international laws... |
Exactly.
Same stuff they teach us in law school
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Originally posted by Auraeolux
Doesn't the UK have an Ex post facto laws???
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They are very, very rare here.
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But the same goes for every war in history... Should France pay for napoleons wars? It's dumb
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Slavery and the business of slavery =/= war and the Napoleonic wars did not displace, torture, murder and enslave 15 million people.
The French did pay for reperations after the wars btw, funny enough they paid Portugal very little because they believed the colonies would make up for it. Brazil was the last country to abolish slavery btw.
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Originally posted by Euan
I do agree with what you are saying, and as devastating and abhorrent as slavery was (and still is), do you really think something which was abolished 200 years ago is completely responsible for the problems which exist in that region today? (as there is their main argument for reparations). Many European countries were utterly destroyed after a war which took place less than a century ago, but through sensible economic management they have managed to pull through and become more and more successful as the Caribbean countries' economies continue to be plagued by mismanagement, rampant inflation and widespread corruption. I don't think that slavery centuries ago is the primary reason for the failings of Caribbean countries today.
That said, good luck to them, but they have no legal argument to stand on as sadly slavery was legal then and Britain and other European countries violated no international laws... |
Slavery is the basis of American culture and politics. Yes, I do think it's the cause of most of the struggles African-Americans face. We literally wouldn't be looked down upon or treated like **** if slavery didn't happen. The dynamic of our country would be completely different. It's obtuse to argue otherwise
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Originally posted by Chemical X.
Slavery is the basis of American culture and politics. Yes, I do think it's the cause of most of the struggles African-Americans face. We literally wouldn't be looked down upon or treated like **** if slavery didn't happen. The dynamic of our country would be completely different. It's obtuse to argue otherwise |
If slavery did not happen there would be no African Americans ...
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