[Mimie]

Originally posted by Jessie Mulay

If y'all have a problem with Stealth Rocks y'all need a Magic Bouncer or Rapid Spinner/Defogger

Exactly
SR impacts people into having to put a Bouncer/Hazard clearer on their team and to put SR in their team themselves.
Which ruins different potential team dynamics and varieties and that's why we see the same pokemon over and over.

[Eeveelution]

Originally posted by Jessie Mulay

If y'all have a problem with Stealth Rocks y'all need a Magic Bouncer or Rapid Spinner/Defogger

I have all of those, because it's necessary. It's overcentralizing.

[Jessie Mulay]

I use a Bug team with a Volcarona & other bugs that take 25% from Stealth Rock. When I was a Gym Leader on Showdown almost everyone used Stealth Rock yet I had no problem sweeping their teams and I had no Spinner

Y'all must suck really bad if Stealth Rock got y'all ****ed up

[sunny phoenix]

Originally posted by Jessie Mulay

I use a Bug team with a Volcarona & other bugs that take 25% from Stealth Rock. When I was a Gym Leader on Showdown almost everyone used Stealth Rock yet I had no problem sweeping their teams and I had no Spinner

Y'all must suck really bad if Stealth Rock got y'all ****ed up

THE CHAMPION HAS APPEARED!! ALL HAIL JESSIE !!

also try wifi and not showdown

[Jessie Mulay]

Originally posted by sunny phoenix

THE CHAMPION HAS APPEARED!! ALL HAIL JESSIE !!

also try wifi and not showdown

Like that would make things any different

[sunny phoenix]

Originally posted by Jessie Mulay

Like that would make things any different

yes wifi battlers are more experienced....

[AMIT]

Originally posted by Jessie Mulay

Unless you're using a Charizard/Volcarona/Mega Pinsir/Talonflame or a Flying type yes

but if not it doesn't

Bye sis, Fire (suffers the most), Bug and Ice types are the most screwed because of SR, not the Flying ones. The first 3 have to deal with Spikes on top of it and Bug is just a terrible typing anyway, as is Ice. The Fire types have to deal with an Earthquake weakness while Flying types are simply immune to it and have reliable recovery (Roost).

Pinsir doesn't even suffer that much from it because it probably isn't switching out after it had mega evolved.

[Jessie Mulay]

Originally posted by sunny phoenix

yes wifi battlers are more experienced....

well i'm guessing you aren't one of them because experienced battlers don't have problems with entry hazards

clockd

[sunny phoenix]

Originally posted by Jessie Mulay

well i'm guessing you aren't one of them because experienced battlers don't have problems with entry hazards

clockd

is that a serious answer??? :biblio


so boring and lame

and everyone clocked in the last couple of pages.... bye


and i never said i have problems.... just that it has a great impact to the metagame... learn to read girl

[AMIT]

Originally posted by Jessie Mulay

I use a Bug team with a Volcarona & other bugs that take 25% from Stealth Rock. When I was a Gym Leader on Showdown almost everyone used Stealth Rock yet I had no problem sweeping their teams and I had no Spinner

Y'all must suck really bad if Stealth Rock got y'all ****ed up

I'm sorry Jessie but this is not a valid argument. SR is over-centralizing whether you want to admit it or not. Every (non-gimmick, like your mono-Bug) team has to have a way to get rid of it and set it if it doesn't want to be at a disadvantage.

The move is broken, period.

Originally posted by Jessie Mulay

What exactly is put in a disadvantage because of it?

The pokes I listed have 4x weakness yet still do fine in OU.

What pokes that are not complete trash and can actually be used in OU but are not in OU are wrecked by rocks?

Moltres and any decent Ice type.

[Jessie Mulay]

Stealth Rock obviously isn't a problem if Smogon isn't doing anything about it.

Surprised you guys aren't worried about SwagPlay or Prankster Thunder Wavers (which are really stupid if they ban them)

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads...in-op.3500620/

[sunny phoenix]

Originally posted by Jessie Mulay

Stealth Rock obviously isn't a problem if Smogon isn't doing anything about it.

Surprised you guys aren't worried about SwagPlay or Prankster Thunder Wavers (which are really stupid if they ban them)

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads...in-op.3500620/

Not u posting smogon links when AMIT the smogon graduate spoke about the matter

ALSO learn to read and comprehend what people are talking about!!

we dont say that ST are the most op thing, just that it over-centralizing the game around it!!

the only reason that its not banned like evasion its because there are valid counters.... but this doesn't change the fact that its impact is undeniable and unfair...

[Jessie Mulay]

Originally posted by AMIT

I'm sorry Jessie but this is not a valid argument. SR is over-centralizing whether you want to admit it or not. Every (non-gimmick, like your mono-Bug) team has to have a way to get rid of it and set it if it doesn't want to be at a disadvantage.

The move is broken, period.

My team doesn't have one yet I'm doing fine.

Originally posted by AMIT

Moltres and any decent Ice type.

Moltres has crap speed and Weakness to everything common in OU which is why it isn't up there. Why do you think it was only RU last gen? Also there aren't really any decent Ice types that don't get wrecked by a Mach Punch or simple Fire move. Stealth Rock should be the last of their problems.

[sunny phoenix]

Originally posted by Jessie Mulay

My team doesn't have one yet I'm doing fine.



Moltres has crap speed and Weakness to everything common in OU which is why it isn't up there. Why do you think it was only RU last gen? Also there aren't really any decent Ice types that don't get wrecked by a Mach Punch or simple Fire move. Stealth Rock should be the last of their problems.

girl really bye now u just make circles without reading what we write....

[AMIT]

Originally posted by Jessie Mulay

Stealth Rock obviously isn't a problem if Smogon isn't doing anything about it.

Surprised you guys aren't worried about SwagPlay or Prankster Thunder Wavers (which are really stupid if they ban them)

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads...in-op.3500620/

I'm sorry, but what can they do? It's a single move, they have never banned single moves before except for evasion boosting ones (which are under the evasion clause anyways).

SwagPlay is a disgusting play-style that shouldn't be a thing at all, it's all luck-based and requires no skill to pull off.

I absolutely don't agree on banning Prankster T-Waves though.

[Jessie Mulay]

Honestly why are some of you people who don't even do competitive battling trying to get into this

I doubt you guys have ever done competitive which is why you think Stealth Rock is a big problem. You are just mad your ugly ass faves are down in the lower tiers. The reason they are down there aren't because of Stealth Rock. It's because either their stats suck, their movepool sucks, or they just aren't good up in OU.

Don't blame a move for some reason your crappy ass fave doesn't get used a lot.

Like sunny pheonix you only stan for looks like Ninetails and **** so don't be trying to get into competitive. Also Weather being nerfed to 5 turns is another reason Fire went downhill. Go back to stanning for the looks of Pokemon, and not trying to get into competitive battling, k?

[Jessie Mulay]

Originally posted by AMIT

!'m sorry, but what can they do? It's a single move, they have never banned single moves before except for evasion boosting ones (which are under the evasion clause anyways).

SwagPlay is a disgusting play-style that shouldn't be a thing at all, it's all luck-based and requires no skill to pull off.

I absolutely don't agree on banning Prankster T-Waves though.

Exactly so don't whine about Stealth Rocks because they aren't going to do anything about it

Go cry about your faves not being in higher tiers

[Eeveelution]

Jessie sis, give up.

[sunny phoenix]

Originally posted by Jessie Mulay

Honestly why are some of you people who don't even do competitive battling trying to get into this

I doubt you guys have ever done competitive which is why you think Stealth Rock is a big problem. You are just mad your ugly ass faves are down in the lower tiers. The reason they are down there aren't because of Stealth Rock. It's because either their stats suck, their movepool sucks, or they just aren't good up in OU.

Don't blame a move for some reason your crappy ass fave doesn't get used a lot.

Like sunny pheonix you only stan for looks like Ninetails and **** so don't be trying to get into competitive. Also Weather being nerfed to 5 turns is another reason Fire went downhill. Go back to stanning for the looks of Pokemon, and not trying to get into competitive battling, k?

ahahahahahahhahahahaha

just because i stan for ninetales it means i don't play competitively??? u know me since when??

i will do what i wont... and take this ****ing attitude to the mirrior not me....

Also i never cried... i just stated the obvious that ST has huge impact... u can deny it all u want.....but its true

[Jessie Mulay]

Originally posted by sunny phoenix

ahahahahahahhahahahaha

just because i stan for ninetales it means i don't play competitively??? u know me since when??

i will do what i wont... and take this ****ing attitude to the mirrior not me....

Your team during that multibattle was a bit

Why don't you guys whine about Sticky Web while you're at it? Pretty sure that needs over-centralizing as well.