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Tik Tok outsold EVERY Beyonce song in the US and WW. This shows she has potential for mass appeal if her career is handled the way Jay-Z handles Beyonce's.
Even Die Young outsold most of Beyonce's singles despite the school shooting.
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That's literally like saying "Flo Rida has had singles outsell any Beyonce single, I think he could do 750k". 
She might have some well performing singles -- but in order to sell albums, you need to be an artist that is generally liked beyond their singles (this includes image, personality, singing,etc).
Ke$ha could perform at the SuperBowl and still not debut with 300k, just because she's not that type of artist.
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"Now That I Found You" is divine.
The song reminds me of discovering Britney and her music tbh.
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Ariana Grande's Emotions cover has more views than the official Emotions video.
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The new whistle register supreme
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Actually, her debut album "Animal" opened with more than 150K in the dead of January. Everyone was shocked. She suffered from mismanagement, but she has the potential to be as big as Beyonce. Just look at Timber. She sings 80% of the song.
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I don't think jump is a smash though. The breakdown is too much for the GeePee to handle, and not in a good way.
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Jump should have been the 3rd single. I don't know what Def Jam was thinking. After Stay, it was the obvious choice seeing as they were paying Loveeee Song dust. Which would have been a bigger hit than What Now.
It should have been
Diamonds
Stay
Pour It Up
Jump
Loveee Song
What Now and Right Now are not single material. She should have pushed that urban image harder Unapologetic would have sold 500K copies more in the US and 1.5M more worldwide with actual promotion. After the Grammys that hoe gave us nothing.
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Without being able to use the T word, SYG feels so constrictive 
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Originally posted by Nicole
Actually, her debut album "Animal" opened with more than 150K in the dead of January. Everyone was shocked. She suffered from mismanagement, but she has the potential to be as big as Beyonce. Just look at Timber. She sings 80% of the song.
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Wasn't her album discounted first week, and Tik Tok was #1 with hella strong digital sales?
Her label could've gave her the worst treatment ever, but there's no way you could convince me she'd be on Beyonce level. It's like saying Flo Rida could be on Michael Jackson's level.
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Feminists are as diverse as the issues they fight against, but one thing anyone who believes in women’s rights knows is that violence against women is not entertainment. Domestic violence is both a national and a worldwide crisis, and and the UN points out that almost half of the world’s female population will become victims of domestic violence
Why would Beyonce, on the heels of being crowned the most contemporary and cool feminist, not only approve that line in her song, but sing it with Jay Z on stage at the recent Grammy’s? As ColorLines points out, instead of staying silent or blurring the line, at the very least, Beyonce chose to shout out the lyrics at the top of her lungs.
You can be pro-choice or anti-choice, for veiling or not, for equal pay or against it. But what woman, especially one of Beyonce’s level of global influence, would try to dismiss a major human rights issue such as battering women? With her fast-growing and emboldened young feminist base, why would Beyonce not send another message about women’s power, or even none at all, instead of celebrating brutality against women? Not to mention the whole line is a reference to Tina Turner’s real life experience.
As a life-long feminist, I have to say for me there is no longer a debate about the kind of feminist Beyonce brings to the table if condones this kind of language in her music. This performance makes me question how ‘real’ Beyonce’s whole feminist act was in the first place. Was the singer just taking advantage of a platform her fans gave her? Is Beyonce only a feminist when it comes to selling her image, and the records they accompany? Is Beyonce a fake feminist?
Most people were left with their jaws on the floor after Mr. & Mrs. Carter opened the Grammy’s last weekend, and as a newly converted major Beyonce loving woman, I did not think there was anything Ms.Knowles could do to shatter my feminist fantasy starring Beyonce. But making such a reference to Tina Turner’s battered past is not okay. It is never okay. I think you can show all the skin you want, and still be a feminist. I believe you should celebrate your relationship and marriage, of course, you are still a feminist. But trying to play-off lyrics that might even have the slightest chance of be mistaken as disregarding violence against women, should never be acceptable in any self- respecting feminist’s book.
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Forbes continues to drag Bey. 
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Yes, the "goodness gracious i can't seem to stop *autotune* " sounds like an underground electropop Robyn-esque gem, but the trashy generic qualities rise to the surface shortly after. 
& yes, the Rihanna/Mustard song is a guaranteed smash. Poor JLo.
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not the kid from supernatural
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Originally posted by Nicole
Actually, her debut album "Animal" opened with more than 150K in the dead of January. Everyone was shocked. She suffered from mismanagement, but she has the potential to be as big as Beyonce. Just look at Timber. She sings 80% of the song.
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did u hit ur head ?
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Originally posted by Nicole
Actually, her debut album "Animal" opened with more than 150K in the dead of January. Everyone was shocked. She suffered from mismanagement, but she has the potential to be as big as Beyonce. Just look at Timber. She sings 80% of the song.
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Madonna's true successor.
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Originally posted by Nicole
Tik Tok outsold EVERY Beyonce song in the US and WW. This shows she has potential for mass appeal if her career is handled the way Jay-Z handles Beyonce's.
Even Die Young outsold most of Beyonce's singles despite the school shooting.
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I don't know where to begin.
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"Bey-hive," please remove your stingers and turn down the volume of your buzzing for this.
Beyoncé's performance of her new single "Drunk in Love" at this year's Grammy Awards disappointed me. Sure, she had every right to rock out her provocative attire and be seductive in her gyrating. But talent wise, it was lackluster and underwhelming. For an artist that previously graced that Grammy stage with the talents of Tina Turner while breaking award records there at the same time, the self-proclaimed "Queen Bey" appeared to be more of a concubine for her husband (i.e. let's not forget her allowance of him flaunting the infamous "Anna Mae" aka Tina Turner domestic abuse cake reference at her in the song).
And when I expressed how disappointed I was about her lack of potential talent in the performance on social media, this is what I got:
"So women can't express their sexuality like a man can?"
"Beyoncé is grown and sexy and can do whatever she likes."
"Surfbort."
"Her ass was everything."
"She was so hot on stage... how could you not like it?"
"Surfbort. Surfbort."
"But that ass, tho."
"Beyoncé is the most gorgeous woman on earth... stop hating on her."
The comments went on and on and then some, but notice what was talked about the most and what was missing. While many complimented her arguably flawless appearance and apparel, no one said anything about the actual talent that has given her those 17 Grammys over the years; her energetic vocals and out of the box performances was left astray this time around.
For a woman who has mastered the art of being "grown and sexy," never has Beyoncé in the past relied so heavily on her physicality to let that overshadow the divine talent that many praise her for religiously. Instead, everyone, including the media, has worshiped her thick thighs and hot body and that was just about it. And while Jay Z walked out in a full tuxedo and some on social media considered him "the luckiest man alive" for acquiring "the baddest chick in the game," we forget that she is a mother, businesswoman, and one of the hardest working entertainers in music history.
Whether you like her music or not, you cannot deny her tenacity. But unfortunately, not even Beyoncé herself is letting us see that side of her as much anymore. Instead, we are left seeing only one side of black feminism that everyone keeps talking about: body politics. And that problem in many ways is how powerful black women become modern-day Hottentot Venuses rather than heavy movers and shakers in our society.
There is nothing wrong with complimenting the beauty of women of power. But when the clothes she is wearing and how she looks in it overrides the focus of her talent and existence, you are oversimplifying the quintessential essence of her purpose. And that might be just as sexist as ****-shaming her for wearing it too tight or too revealing.
If true feminism is the advocacy and support of social, political and economic rights for women equal to those of men... then we should also be able to expect more from women just as much as we do men. Our standards should not be reduced based on the level of attractiveness that some women might possess. The media should do a better job of avoiding this overindulgence of stereotypical beauty in women just as we do men. Instead of telling me what Beyoncé is wearing all of the time, how about tell me more about what power-moves she is making.
Just as much as no one knows or cares about whether or not Jay Z is wearing underwear under his tuxedo, how about we give Beyoncé and every other woman on this planet the same respect. If we are to be a model society that is teaching young girls to love their bodies and young men to respect them, we cannot continue to create a biased system of honoring physical appearance on the same level as individual merit.
Based on our skewed social norms, if Adele was to perform just like Beyoncé did at this past Grammy Awards, would you have felt the same way? Would you have criticized her for coming out to reveal her curvier figure? Would you have complained that she was out of character and needs to resort to her more reserved manner? Would you have wanted her to put more clothes on?
If you said yes to any of this, then you also must admit that you are contributing to the oversimplification of women in the world. And you must also consider registering for a gender and society course.
Frankly, I am not some prude commentator begging for the conformity of Beyoncé or any other woman for that matter. But I know that just like my mother, First Lady Michelle Obama, and any other hard working, educated, professional, and striving woman out there: they are more than just physically attractive in their own way, but full of merit like any of their male counterparts.
All I would like to see more of in the media are these brilliant women's accomplishments spotlighted and discussed, rather than questions of "Who wore it better?" and "Does (insert any young famous woman) look fat in this?"
That is what real feminism encourages and that is what any true "flawless" individual will do.
Bow down, sexists.
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HuffPo continues too... Is January a bad month for Bey ?
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True kesha is more known than beyonce.
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It should be obvious that I'm joking but with all the nonsense people spew in here I don't blame you for falling for it
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not the kid from supernatural
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your sis wouldn't mind it
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"disappointed I was about her lack of talent"
People are finally seeing what i have been saying for years.
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Katy B still ***** on your favs.
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