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Discussion: Why are Black Girls Flopping This Decade?
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Originally posted by IsidoraMarí
Because America doesn't care about music, they just want songs they can sing along with. And most Black Females sing with passion, which most Americans lack.
Rihanna had to do 2 Pop centered albums, GGGB and LOUD, just to get America to listen to her albums. Those two albums are her most successful while she's churned out 3 other absolutely amazing albums, the only songs that did well were her pop centered Rude Boy, We Found Love, and Where Have You Been. Diamonds was the first time a non pop Rihanna song with her at the lead did well IMO.
But look at Gaga, She did Pop centered albums TF/M then did BTW and even she lost the GP as soon as she started showcasing good material with meaning.
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It's funny because Rihanna was also the one who ushered in the death of urban music's domination of the first half of the 00's with her smash dance hit SOS. 
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Originally posted by IsidoraMarí
Because America doesn't care about music, they just want songs they can sing along with. And most Black Females sing with passion, which most Americans lack.
Rihanna had to do 2 Pop centered albums, GGGB and LOUD, just to get America to listen to her albums. Those two albums are her most successful while she's churned out 3 other absolutely amazing albums, the only songs that did well were her pop centered Rude Boy, We Found Love, and Where Have You Been. Diamonds was the first time a non pop Rihanna song with her at the lead did well IMO.
But look at Gaga, She did Pop centered albums TF/M then did BTW and even she lost the GP as soon as she started showcasing good material with meaning.
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no. A Girl Like Me sold 1.3 million copies and all of it's singles did really well, sans "We Ride," and it's mainly R&B/Reggae. GGGB & LOUD just made catapulted her into global superstardom, people were already listening.
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Originally posted by IsidoraMarí
Because America doesn't care about music, they just want songs they can sing along with. And most Black Females sing with passion, which most Americans lack.
Rihanna had to do 2 Pop centered albums, GGGB and LOUD, just to get America to listen to her albums. Those two albums are her most successful while she's churned out 3 other absolutely amazing albums, the only songs that did well were her pop centered Rude Boy, We Found Love, and Where Have You Been. Diamonds was the first time a non pop Rihanna song with her at the lead did well IMO.
But look at Gaga, She did Pop centered albums TF/M then did BTW and even she lost the GP as soon as she started showcasing good material with meaning.
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Diamonds is Pop  Rude Boy is more of an urban song though
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Originally posted by Kool_Aid_King
Dawn Richard had that album, Sevyn Streeter has a couple electro-R&B songs on her album, Brandy's album had one electro-R&B song on her album, Ciara's album had a handful, Keyshia Cole did an electronic song, Mary J Blige did it in 2011, Rihanna, Janelle Monae's entire sound falls under that, etc.
There's a lot more examples, those are just the main examples.
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It's not like those songs are being sent to Pop radio and a lot of those influences aren't in line with mainstream dance pop/EDM. That Keyshia song was only a bonus track too. Nothing on Brandys album was radio friendly either. Overdose is the only song that sounds like it could be a hit but her/her label are not doing anything with it.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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What do you mean black girls are flopping?
Miley is NOT flopping - WB went number 1. 
But seriously though, i don't see that much of a floppage 
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not Icona Pop being included  the black struggle
That's pretty bad though.
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I think there'll be more success from black females next year. Pop radio is becoming more accepting of urban-influenced songs, and eventually the pop radio DJs will realize there's loads of singers out there who have been doing songs like Blurred Lines, Royals, Thrift Shop, The Way, Mirrors, etc.
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Because nobody cares that these females are black. America doesn't have meetings where we pick one black artist to support a year and take to the top of the Hot 100. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. Move on.
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Originally posted by IsidoraMarí
Because America doesn't care about music, they just want songs they can sing along with. And most Black Females sing with passion, which most Americans lack.
Rihanna had to do 2 Pop centered albums, GGGB and LOUD, just to get America to listen to her albums. Those two albums are her most successful while she's churned out 3 other absolutely amazing albums, the only songs that did well were her pop centered Rude Boy, We Found Love, and Where Have You Been. Diamonds was the first time a non pop Rihanna song with her at the lead did well IMO.
But look at Gaga, She did Pop centered albums TF/M then did BTW and even she lost the GP as soon as she started showcasing good material with meaning.
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What an incredibly racist, stupid thing to say 
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Because everyone is racist.
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Originally posted by Rihhyonce
There may be tinges of electro influence in some of their work, but I would never classify any of those women you mentioned (sans Rihanna) as anything other than R&B.
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I would consider Ciara pop'ish.
She usually has a pop single each album
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Originally posted by Eternium
Because nobody cares that these females are black. America doesn't have meetings where we pick one black artist to support a year and take to the top of the Hot 100. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. Move on.
What an incredibly racist, stupid thing to say |
Pretty much. ATRL is always out there to make it seem as if people are like "Hmm this singer is black! I will not support". African-Americans are pretty successful in the music industry overall
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Originally posted by Kool_Aid_King
This entire decade, there have only been THREE black women in the Top 10 as Lead artists/Groups (Icona Pop, Rihanna & Nicki Minaj). Aside from those three, there have only been TWO black women in the top 10 as features in this decade: Janelle Monae, & Beyoncé.
Why are black girls flopping so hard?
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Besides Rih, I don't know any of these girls you mentioned. I'm not sure what your definition of flopping is. Its not about how many top 10s you have, its how much your album sold and if you can sell out arenas/stadiums around the world and the only two black girls doing that this decade are Bey and Rih. Alicia Keys is the 3rd option, she may bounce back with her next era.
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Originally posted by KangBey
Besides Rih, I don't know any of these girls you mentioned. I'm not sure what your definition of flopping is. Its not about how many top 10s you have, its how much your album sold and if you can sell out arenas/stadiums around the world and the only two black girls doing that this decade are Bey and Rih. Alicia Keys is the 3rd option, she may bounce back with her next era.
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You don't know Nicki? 
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Rih isn't flopping. 
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R&B is not as big as it used to be back in the 90s-early 00s. This is a big reason why it is difficult for black girls to become breakout stars these days. Beyonce and Alicia were the last 2 R&B big stars and they are from the early 00s back when it was big.
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This thread is pointless. Rihanna has had 7 #1 hits since the beginning of the decade (more than any other artist and tied with Katy Perry). It just depends on the type of music they release. Pop music is more chart-friendly than R&B at the moment.
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Originally posted by keshaspearsxo
not Icona Pop being included the black struggle
That's pretty bad though. |
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[Lipstickalley]Because white people are taking our sound, style, music, producers etc. and using it to gain more success and our people would rather support them than our own[/Lipstickalley]
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Originally posted by Eternium
Because nobody cares that these females are black. America doesn't have meetings where we pick one black artist to support a year and take to the top of the Hot 100. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. Move on.
What an incredibly racist, stupid thing to say |
But why is it easier for a white artist to do the same music as black artist and gain more success?
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