[ivi]

Originally posted by TheGeoKing

Billboard is confirming this though: http://www.billboard.com/biz/article...y-carter-split

But they only posted what others posted and nobody has confirmed it so no.



Not perez saying this happened in August when Troy just talked about the album last week lol.

I won't believe this till it's confirmed, but if it is, that is messy.

[Lyra]

A mess.

It's only a matter of time until she leaves Interscope all together.

I feel she won't be happy until she controls 100% of her career.

Who's ready for Rivington Records, CEO Lady Starlight?

[Forevermore]

I hope she does leave, it's not like they are doing much for her anyway.

[Gambert]

Maye new manager is joseph jackson or willi am

[Toxicity.]

Originally posted by TheGeoKing

I hope she does leave, it's not like they are doing much for her anyway.

Are you serious?

[- JED -]

Nnnnnnn not a Billboard confirmation

[Musiclover1987]

Originally posted by ivi

But they only posted what others posted and nobody has confirmed it so no.



Not perez saying this happened in August when Troy just talked about the album last week lol.

I won't believe this till it's confirmed, but if it is, that is messy.

You know.. It IS possible Troy tried to stick around for appearance's sakes..
I'm not saying Perez was right, but I wouldn't just dismiss it either, he seems to know a lot of people in her circle.

[Forevermore]

Originally posted by Toxicity.

Are you serious?

Yeah, she should have complete creative freedom. She can still create great music and do well commercially. I feel songs like "Fashion!" and "Donatella" were pushed by her label to be on the album instead of other songs such as "Brooklyn Nights" and "Temple" which will most likely be a lot better. Yet they just magically fell off being on the record for very questionable reasons at the last moment... I guess we will see when we finally get to here them through the App.

[Musiclover1987]

Originally posted by TheGeoKing

Yeah, she should have complete creative freedom. She can still create great music and do well commercially. I feel songs like "Fashion!" and "Donatella" were pushed by her label to be on the album instead of other songs such as "Brooklyn Nights" and "Temple" which will most likely be a lot better. Yet they just magically fell off being on the record for very questionable reasons at the last moment... I guess we will see when we finally get to here them through the App.

The article says:

"Carter would often describe their relationship as a simple matter of balancing creative and business decisions: She makes 95 percent of the creative calls, while he handles five percent; he makes 95 percent of the business decisions, and she five."

At this point in her career, I doubt anyone is forcing Lady Gaga to do anything.

[Forevermore]

Originally posted by Musiclover1987

The article says:

"Carter would often describe their relationship as a simple matter of balancing creative and business decisions: She makes 95 percent of the creative calls, while he handles five percent; he makes 95 percent of the business decisions, and she five."

At this point in her career, I doubt anyone is forcing Lady Gaga to do anything.

Not forcing, "encouraging".

[LadyGagaStan93]

Originally posted by TheGeoKing

Yeah, she should have complete creative freedom. She can still create great music and do well commercially. I feel songs like "Fashion!" and "Donatella" were pushed by her label to be on the album instead of other songs such as "Brooklyn Nights" and "Temple" which will most likely be a lot better. Yet they just magically fell off being on the record for very questionable reasons at the last moment... I guess we will see when we finally get to here them through the App.

Eh, those songs are Gaga enough that they were probably her own creations. Donatella has been talked about since last year. Mary Jane Holland was the song they were battling for. Fashion! came literally out of nowhere. I don't believe that the label is pushing for anything music wise, that's all on her. I think she loves her music and that she'll stick by it. I do think that they push singles though and that's been evident for the past few eras. Troy is her personal manager though but if this is true I know people will try to use Troy being gone as an excuse for any type of under-performance

[Forevermore]

Originally posted by LadyGagaStan93

Eh, those songs are Gaga enough that they were probably her own creations. Donatella has been talked about since last year. Mary Jane Holland was the song they were battling for. Fashion! came literally out of nowhere. I don't believe that the label is pushing for anything music wise, that's all on her. I think she loves her music and that she'll stick by it. I do think that they push singles though and that's been evident for the past few eras. Troy is her personal manager though but if this is true I know people will try to use Troy being gone as an excuse for any type of under-performance

The mystery of "Brooklyn Nights" and "Temple" disappearing and "Fashion!" coming out of nowhere though...

[LadyGagaStan93]

Originally posted by TheGeoKing

The mystery of "Brooklyn Nights" and "Temple" disappearing and "Fashion!" coming out of nowhere though...

Now I will say though that I do agree with you, that's very weird, and if they're significantly better than Fashion! and a few of the other tracks on the album I'm going to start questioning but the only thing I can think of is Fashion! being contractually obliged because of the producers.

[Musiclover1987]

Originally posted by TheGeoKing

Not forcing, "encouraging".

I really doubt it. If Beyonce managed to keep all her songs on her solo debut even when her label didn't think she had any hits, then Lady Gaga should be able to do the same. She seems like she has backbone enough to do so. The music, the songs on the albums, they're all hers. I really believe that.

[jinzo]

The amateur dramatics in here are something else. Like ya'll are painting this picture that Troy was some perfect saint that could do no wrong.

We don't know anything to do with the inside scoop, maybe he was underperforming. I mean, look at his other artists- where the hell are they careers at? Who's to say Interscope didn't push the button?

I stand by what I said last night- as a manager, he was already doing wrong by letting 70-80% of the BTW era happen. From BTW's polarising lyrics to Judas's polarising everything it was all very very risky from the business angle. Maybe this was a mutual agreement after a period of reflection rather than some Days Of Our Lives-ass battle.

As long as she picks up a new manager soon and keeps herself open to collaboration and outside interaction, as a fan I have no problem whatsoever. I would only be upset if she takes on too much personally and it detracts from her health and wellbeing.

[Forevermore]

Originally posted by LadyGagaStan93

Now I will say though that I do agree with you, that's very weird, and if they're significantly better than Fashion! and a few of the other tracks on the album I'm going to start questioning but the only thing I can think of is Fashion! being contractually obliged because of the producers.

Oh sis, we both know they will be better. "Cake Like Lady Gaga" is better, it's not going to take much to triumph over that messy song. The label probably felt that a song with will.i.am and David Guetta would smash super hard on the charts (which is all they care about) and just "encouraged" Gaga to include it on the album. I guess I will have to drag a bitch when they are released and **** all over "Fashion!".

[ivi]

Wait, isn't Vincent someone high in her record company? Aka the one that chooses the singles?

And isn't Troy probably the one just handeling those orders?

So Blame Vincent (and Gaga) if at all.

[geo]

I wonder why. They were a good team.

If this did happen in August it explains a lot to be honest.

[LadyGagaStan93]

Originally posted by ivi

Wait, isn't Vincent someone high in her record company? Aka the one that chooses the singles?

And isn't Troy probably the one just handeling those orders?

So Blame Vincent (and Gaga) if at all.

As JAY said vincent is the record executive. He okays pretty much everything, and Troy is her personal manager so Troy handles things like booking/promotion and campaigns. He's the guy who basically guides her career while Jimmy Iovine/Vince Herbert are the people that say Yes/No/Maybe so

[Jack!]

I hope it's true, so she can get a better manager and maybe then she can get good promo.