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Discussion: Why does ATRL hate Gaga and Beyoncé?
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Their "hated" because of their fans. BUT, the same can be said about every stan base.
The Hive and monsters are just so damn extra.
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Member Since: 8/29/2012
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Why do people here want everyone to hail their faves as musical geniuses? Does it give some sort of vicarious validation to someone who stans for an artist such as GaGa or Beyonce to hear how great they are? Just be happy for your fave and ignore the haters. Besides, I'm 95% sure people here "hate" artists to troll their fans and nothing more. 
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Member Since: 6/10/2011
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Originally posted by TeamRHI
I am still planning my début effort.
If "Applause" was released by any artist who didn't have hype, it wouldn't even chart. It's not a song that is good to the point where it can grow over time (IE: STIUTK, Safe & Sound) instead it's just a generic pop/dance song with mediocre chords, mediocre vocal production, and no creativity. I'm not blaming Gaga so much as I am DJWS. He can't produce well and doesn't fit Gaga's vision of being a creative musician.
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Clock me a BIT. I better see a Poker Face-sized masterpiece on that album.
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Member Since: 6/25/2011
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Originally posted by Praise Mariallah
Because most of ATRL's faves fall under 3 categories:
Those who can sing well, but aren't much of a performer.
Those who can put on a show, but has little raw talent.
Those who can sing decently and perform decently, but has virtually no hand in the major aspects of their music/career.
Bey & Gaga are as close to the total package as pop stars, in general, get. They have singing talent, they can put on a show, they're headstrong, they're album sellers in a time where most singers are celebrating over how fast their record can go #1 or how long it can stay there. Stans dislike artists who have one big characteristic their fave lacks because no amount of word twisting, number crunching, or ugly pictures can make up for it.
It's the same way in real life. Where people generally dislike a certain person for a quality that person possesses that they themselves lack and would love to have. |
You better educate sis!
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Member Since: 9/22/2011
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Originally posted by TeamRHI
Em-D-C-Am-D-Em is the chord progression for the entire song. The synthesizer used I could recreate in five minutes. Matter of fact it's probably a Z3TA or Nexus preset. |
Is that your argument for why it's not a good pop song? That's musically simplistic and uses a synth patch you're familiar with? As a Beatles fan, you of all people should be aware that the best pop songs are the simplest. So please take your recording studio internship ass out of this thread until you can formulate a proper argument that actually responds to the statement you're trying to dismiss with pointless remarks you picked up at a Guitar Center.
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Originally posted by MM3
@ anyone who hates an artist because of their fans. Who's more stupid? The delusional fans or you for letting people over the internet change your opinion so easily?
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Member Since: 2/27/2012
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because they are both queens
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Praise Mariallah
Because most of ATRL's faves fall under 3 categories:
Those who can sing well, but aren't much of a performer.
Those who can put on a show, but has little raw talent.
Those who can sing decently and perform decently, but has virtually no hand in the major aspects of their music/career.
Bey & Gaga are as close to the total package as pop stars, in general, get. They have singing talent, they can put on a show, they're headstrong, they're album sellers in a time where most singers are celebrating over how fast their record can go #1 or how long it can stay there. Stans dislike artists who have one big characteristic their fave lacks because no amount of word twisting, number crunching, or ugly pictures can make up for it.
It's the same way in real life. Where people generally dislike a certain person for a quality that person possesses that they themselves lack and would love to have. |
A round of applause for spilling So much truth!
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Member Since: 6/10/2011
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Originally posted by -Alfie-
ATRL LOVES Beyonce, everybody loves Beyonce, only tacky, tone deaf and/or ugly people don't like her.
Gaga is another story, the general public doesn't use her.
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Accurate.
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Member Since: 6/15/2012
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The fact that some of you are arguing and priding yourselves on supposedly having the most hated fave on ATRL is EXACTLY why they are hated on.
The sheer lack of self-awareness is alarming. 
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Member Since: 9/13/2010
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Originally posted by Praise Mariallah
Because most of ATRL's faves fall under 3 categories:
Those who can sing well, but aren't much of a performer.
Those who can put on a show, but has little raw talent.
Those who can sing decently and perform decently, but has virtually no hand in the major aspects of their music/career.
Bey & Gaga are as close to the total package as pop stars, in general, get. They have singing talent, they can put on a show, they're headstrong, they're album sellers in a time where most singers are celebrating over how fast their record can go #1 or how long it can stay there. Stans dislike artists who have one big characteristic their fave lacks because no amount of word twisting, number crunching, or ugly pictures can make up for it.
It's the same way in real life. Where people generally dislike a certain person for a quality that person possesses that they themselves lack and would love to have. |
Oops. 
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Member Since: 6/25/2011
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Originally posted by Summer
Their "hated" because of their fans. BUT, the same can be said about every stan base.
The Hive and monsters are just so damn extra.
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How unhealthy and unstable can someone be to not like an artist because of their fans? That makes literally no sense. I pray for these kinds of people. Life is too short...
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Member Since: 6/15/2012
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And most people on ATRL DO like the artist but they drag them either way just for the hell of it.
That's probably why most of us joined. 
I don't think anyone ACTUALLY hates the artist in real life.  Or I would hope not.
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Member Since: 6/24/2011
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Originally posted by QueenBLadyG
How unhealthy and unstable can someone be to not like an artist because of their fans? That makes literally no sense. I pray for these kinds of people. Life is too short...
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It is ATRL, though.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 8/1/2012
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Originally posted by Arking
Is that your argument for why it's not a good pop song? That's musically simplistic and uses a synth patch you're familiar with? As a Beatles fan, you of all people should be aware that the best pop songs are the simplest. So please take your recording studio internship ass out of this thread until you can formulate a proper argument that actually responds to the statement you're trying to dismiss with pointless remarks you picked up at a Guitar Center.
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I'm saying that Applause uses a generic & basic chord progression first off. I'm also stating that her synth isn't groundbreaking and sounds like nearly every dance song put out in 2010. Sorry you couldn't understand basic logic. I don't like generic music. For an artist who states she wants to be creative and innovative, she isn't doing a good job with a basic dance song. Simple as that.
PS: I'm a Gaga fan. I love quite a few tracks off BTW and TFM. There are those that I dislike and can't stand though. A real fan or stan of an artist doesn't have to like 100% of their work, it's fine to disagree with releases and the direction the artist is going.
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Member Since: 5/31/2012
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Originally posted by Kula
And even Gaga flopping, she stays relevant, the same with Beyonce
Right Now flopped and now care, Thinking Of You flopped and no one care, Ooh La La flopped and no one care, less than 1% of the 2012 superbowl audience bought Madonna MDNA and NO ONE care
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THIS!
Their impact! 
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Arking
Is that your argument for why it's not a good pop song? That's musically simplistic and uses a synth patch you're familiar with? As a Beatles fan, you of all people should be aware that the best pop songs are the simplest. So please take your recording studio internship ass out of this thread until you can formulate a proper argument that actually responds to the statement you're trying to dismiss with pointless remarks you picked up at a Guitar Center.
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DRAG that thing 
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Member Since: 11/27/2008
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Originally posted by GreasyBruce
Because of their stans, most of them are violent, completely delusional (not to mention irrational) and obsessive. So people drag their faves to annoy/troll them and make them shut up.
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THIS basically.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 8/1/2012
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Beyonce on the other hand I don't see anybody hate? I see people hate on her fanbase but not on the artist herself.
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Originally posted by MM3
Clock me a BIT. I better see a Poker Face-sized masterpiece on that album.
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You shall
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