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Originally posted by KimFloppible
Seriously, the Nicki hate is getting super freaking old!!! I swear to God people don't even know why they hate her! they seriously just say they hate her. "I hate Nicki Minaj" why? then they list things that ANYONE can refute. I love how people are trying to pin the low ratings on her. It's not because of her, the show is simply boring, so the band wagon hate seems to be the cause. 90% of the people who say they aren't watching because of her haven't even seen her judge or listend to her entire album.
How can she be a bad judge if you've never even seen her judge? how can you say she's talentless when the ONLY songs you know by her ar Starships and Super Bass. The fact that people think Stupid Hoe is an awful song is because they don't listen past the freaking chorus, which is actually genius.
I'm starting to think the hate will never die. SMH Urban is truly the only crowd that seems to understand that Nicki is beyond talented. GP may be buying her stuff, but Urban appreciates her talents more. Most of the urban sites have started to lean in her favor.
I need this third album to be so ****ing calculated that she ends lives with diamond cutting precision. I want her to OUTLINE the bastards she's going to target. I want intimate details. i want Rosenburg's voicemails used as ad-libs on a track. i want to hear him grovel.
i want edges RIPPED from the scalps of lessors. She needs to rectify EVERY situation. i want Tamar slams, Azealia, Kim, Eve, and that girl from TLC tea, I want her to slam those who called her a "bitch" "ghetto" "sell out" "talentless"
She also needs to explain a lot of what went on. I don't want her to try and get sympathy, but she needs to stand firm in her position. I don't want her to reneg on going pop. i want her to acknowledge it and OWN it. Let them bitches know "if I wasn't a rapper, I could have got a pop deal."
Nicki is the queen. ANY bitch who says otherwise should be dealt with. END RANT.
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Um, I don't agree entirely but you betta go awf. Go in and let have. I'm going to have to post some of my gems to keep in mind.
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Originally posted by Willy.
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Hahaha...love it
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Originally posted by KimFloppible
look through these post... tell me how many highly ranked positive post you can find about her
http://www.reddit.com/search?q=nicki+minaj
"Scum Bag Nicki Minaj"
Top rated comment "Do you honestly expect thought provoking comments from Niki Minaj?" |
Charge that to the game. The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference.
No1curr about you THEN that is a problem. If you are polarizing then you are doing something right.
Let me post my gems so that you can mellow.
First simmer and then INHALE
1)
It's quite complicated, yet simple. Nicki played the game and many were ok as long as she was in their box as a hip hop video chick looking female rapper that would be hot for a minute. The problem is she constantly proves she has a brain and is powerful and people don't like to see a smart, female rapper that brands themselves into a multi-million empire. She outsmarted many people and no matter what she does someone is going to have an issue with it. As I said before, the opposite of love is not hate it's indifference. Nicki has become a polarizing figure that brings about a strong reaction she is in that position and people deep down know that it really is her game to lose and she hasn't made monumental mistakes to lose her empire. She's not partying like crazy, getting busted for drugs or doing anything that will make her lose everything. She's being smart and people (some) have a hard time dealing with it.
So let's take a look at her critiques:
Her butt: Whether she covers it up or shows it people are still going to call her fake.
Her trying to be white: If she shows a tanned body, people will still call her fake.
Her wigs: If she stops with the blonde and just sticks to black people are still going to bash her.
Her music: If she sticks with hip hop people are going to say that she is trying to get back the fanbase she lost. If she sticks with pop people are going to say she is a wannabe florida/kesha
Her clothing: If she is smart about affordable clothing at Kmart people are going to make fun of the brand name
Her tv show: People are still going to call her a brat or get bothered with her critiques and act like they don't ever disagree with the others
Her album sales: Even though most male rappers and no female rappers are close to nipping at her heels album and single sales wise people are still going to call her a flop and if she increases in sales it's only because of "XYZ" reason.
so on and so forth
Again, it's Nicki's game to lose and she can stop making songs about bragging like I am your leader, hov lane, come on a cone and put out all inspirational songs like Fly/moment for life, all r&b songs like save me, all pop songs like starships or all hip hop songs like Champion/Roman's revenge someone will say she's trying too hard to do this or not doing this enough.
2)
So many quotables...
Let me just start off with the obvious one that I continue to belabor
"...but she seems to be focused on a future Forbes cover down the line."
She better navigate that sht this year. This is her best chance
12M AI, 10M to party, record breaking fragrance sales, contract signed for clothing line (advances), royalties, Pepsi, Adidas and other advertisements. On top of that she has dominated radio overall, dominated the press, dominated award show wins and sparked controversy while still being successful.
Gaga and Madonna were touring forces but not big in any other areas and took nosedives in radio, Justing Bieber and RIhanna's tour grosses will be split in between Forbes cutoff. Adele doesn't have anything outside of incredible sales and awards.
As stated in July 2012, she will amass $40M+ for Forbes 2013. She NEEDS to be on the cover and I hope that this was some sort of hint. Really, who else will come for ha wig.
By the time her 3rd era comes, musically she will have evolved but music, radio, sales, controversy and media impact will not be as heightened as it was for her in 2012.
"Macy's was so stoked- they couldn't keep it in stores." Pink Fridays record breaking sales.
So glad people are loving the fragrance
"Nicki is not one of those artists that allow her representatives to make decisions for her."
Boss
"I've seen so many mistakes made by artist who weren't paying attention-and that can derail a career."
Exactly...learned from the past mistakes and put the business side first and all will come into place.
"One of the things nobody understands about me is that everything thus far has gone according to plan."
Thank you.
She's always wanted to brand herself.
-The mixtapes were to prove she can rap
-Buildup to her debut plus features during her debut album was to prove she can be feature on any person's song and steal the show with the most memorable verse.
-Her debut album was to prove that she can blend gritty songs with crossover songs in a collage of dance pop, r&b, hip hop, hip pop styles with relatable, inspirational, cheeky/fun and also cut-throat ish talking music
-Her 2nd album was to prove she can do a half pop and half hip hop album that will expand her fanbase to go on arena tours and go global and not just as a features artist. She made mistakes by going too extreme but rebounded nicely as she still sold decent and endured the controversy and backlash
-Her 2013 3rd album will be to prove after the backlash and pushing the extreme that she learns to reel it in and learns from past mistakes and goes back into her urban roots but next level ish that we've never heard. Her fans will deem it a classic since it will be so much better than PF:RR but the public might or might not agree. THey will agree that it is solid and better than her 1st two albums.
-Her 2015 4th album will be her classic record after she spends the 3rd album repairing minor damage from the 2nd era.
-Her 2017 5th album will not be a classic but a solid record and great way to bow out gracefully.
A 2018 or 2019 GH will be there just because she can.
3)
I think people forget that the hate isn't necessarily the worse thing. The opposite of love is not hate. It's indifference. She just needs more of the fairweathers to comeback to her.
After they realize that NONE of the female rap legends will comeback and the up and coming female rappers aren't coming for her wig, then Nicki needs to remind people why she was able to make it to her level. I don't think this will JUST be achieved with her 3rd album. The 3rd album will be the start. The 4th album will put her back where she needs to be...and i guess she will bow out gracefully with her 5th album and retire on top...top female rapper of the decade.
ONce she takesover the fragrance and clothing brands people will continue to warm up to her.
Someone here said it very well in the summer. It's like the come up and mixtape days represent her working hard for the track meet and finally took the gold at the 1st meet (PF). During PF:RR, she hit the finals/championship whatever and was way in the lead and got bored with the fact that she was in her own lane so she just stopped with the baton in her hand and started walking backwards until she had someone close to nipping at her heels (some would say other female rappers, some would say the backlash and harsh criticism)...well she still has the baton in her hand and is moving forward. The others are still eating her dust and she will cross the finish line. The re-up was her taking some of the steps backwards on PF:RR and going forward...she will hit the home stretch where she puts out a quality 16 track album again and will continue to win VMAs, AMAs, EMAs, BMAs, and eventually grammy's.
It's like people don't understand that if she would have played it safe she wouldn't have gone on the journey and mainstream people would have been indifferent and she might not have achieved certain advertisements, business opportunities and for sure not sold out arenas globally. Why do you all think she said that she had bigger balls than Madonna? Because she literally had the game in the palm of her hands just to do PF 2.0 and play it safe. But she chose to put out Stupid hoe with the genius video message but horrible song and timing but she had to get it off of her chest regardless of the backlash. Couple this with urban scratching their heads at turn me on and then losing their sht with starships. That takes guts but she has a vision. The only problem I have is that she allowed Dr. Luke to play her a little bit but that's a horse of a different color and I already addressed that. She made the final decision with PF:RR and went with it. She also went from 2010 Onika to Harajuku zany Nicki and that was a risk. From sexy to zany and kooky turned people off but it showed the fashion world that she was not afraid to be out there and is daring. What did she do she took a risk as an artist, made some mistakes, grew and learned and is toned down. Her attitude is different, her perspective is different and even with backlash she expanded her brand to be a household global name.
If she would have given us Superbass 2.0s and Right thru me 2.0s then people would have gone bored with her. She made her mark and became polarizing just like many controversial artists (Britney, Rihanna, Madonna, Michael jackson, Gaga) and you can't achieve that playing it safe even if you are the top of your game. The opposite of love is not hate it's indifference. Most people have a strong opinion towards her one way or the other but even the hate is dying down as its not fun for the fairweathers anymore. I have no doubt in my mind that she would have became someone that many were indifferent to and grew tired of if she would have played it safe.
I don't even want a Pink Friday style album. I want her to go through her journey from the highs and lows and show growth and maturity. She said that she will get grammy's in the future. I don't remember her saying she will get grammy's with PF:RR. She also said this was era was more about fun and not overthinking things. She even said on the Fuse interview that she has a lot to say and in the E! special she said that she prophecizes (sp) what happens. I still like PF:RR for what it was. I think she knows how to move fast and make the right moves.
I just don't see how I am the only one in the base that sees what she did to get where she is now. She couldn't give us PF 2.0 and be looked at more than a cute little feature queen (which would get boring). PF:RR set her out as a premiere solo act globally and I would imagine some of those people that wouldn't think twice about buying anything with rap on it will listen and appreciate her diversity of pop/dance/r&b/hip hop/rap.
I can see some fairweathers coming back once she stays away from the crazy outfits, bragging songs and the overly pop songs. I mean, if 5 outfits of her looking sexy again in subtlety and American Idol can tame that beast what makes people so scurrrrred that channeling her experience into her new music won't do it as well.
I see her 3rd album doing what Loud did against Rated R although Rated R bops globally it set things backwards.
I see her 4th album being the true classic and then I see her bowing out gracefully with her 5th album being ranked top 3 rappers of the decade and obvious #1 female rapper of the decade. I mean I already gave you my predictions on all she is going to achieve...I'll keep that cute for now. I already wrote two dissertations today.
To be quite real, the female rap game is all but dead as hip hop in general is barely living you have to be multi-faceted and have superstar quality. Did anyone really see superstar quality in Azealia? I even like the albino chick but I see it but then I don't see it.
Nicki remains unbothered and even if a rita ora ish girl nips at her heel when the GP thinks female hip hop superstar they think Nicki Minaj whether they love or hate her.
I keep telling you all the 2012 was a pivotal year for her. The brand became global and she is a certified household name. At this point, it's her game to lose and she's sitting on the lessers.
Her features will take care of Spring.
High school will take care of spring
She'll wrap up the album in the summer and premiere an August smash single.
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fan that hates to love her but doesn't like Nicki's choices and expect her to do what they want and just is consumed. They give themselves stomach ulcers because they are so stressed, (op, de, re) pressed souls that are thirsty, hungry and deprived. Nicki got their minds and it's like a trap. They can't function without shading nicki...it's like their nourishment. Such a sad life to live. I can't dedicate that obsession and anger towards people because it's too much time to dedicate to the people you like/love.
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This is only 1/3 or 2/3s through the era,without a dvd, without pta, mm, vvv, wi, champion and future features.
I believe she can amass 50m with more.pull from mm and vvv by end of pfrr era.
3 more albums since she claims to only want to do 5 albums and bow out.gracefully (some ppl need to take notes)...she will certainly amass 50m more records between 3 more eras.
100 milli here we come.
With at least 3 albums and 20+ more features this decade I believe she will secure 100m records (and she will be the first female rapper to do it)...20m will be from albums and also be the most charted female artist in hot 100 history...I'm banking on it.
She really made my day when she said that breaking records turned her on and kept her driven.
I want her to achieve the following:
-Most charted female on hot 100 (currently #9 should be #6 by the end of this era alone)
-Most #1s on hip hip charts for female currently tied with missy with 4
-The only female rapper to sell 100m records
-have all her albums sell 3m ww
-rank top 20 overall and top 5 rap for.most successful albums in the u.s. (currently #14 with pf: 1.85m)
-numerous #1 albums ww (so far she has for the us, UK, Japan, Canada and ww charts).
-5 consecutive #1 albums
-a handful of grammys
-bma, vma, ama, ema, rma, wma tca, pca awards)
-eventual superbowl performance of her own
- consistent 6-8 singles released per album garnering 6 top 40s each era.
-surpass missy Elliott as having the most successful album female rap of all time (sold 2.1m) I believe if they play their cards right with November release next era and the right hybrid hip pop songs (2), pop songs (3), and.urban songs (3)...it can work.
-at least 2#1 hot 100 songs since there are only 6 female rap artist with #1s (mainly features) to their name.
-at least 15 top 10 hot 100 hits
-making her entry into the top 10 of forbes July 2013...generating close to 40m this year)
-continued ad deals (opi, mac, Pepsi, adidas etc.)
-continued headlining tours...merchandising game on point (name a rap bish that could do it...alone).
-continued 360 publishing and royalties
-record breaking fragrance deals
-wig line
-apparel line/clothes, bags, jewelry, shoes, baby clothes (yeah I said it...babies got to have swag practically coming out of the womb)
-somewhat of an acting career (continued voice for animated movies, some dramatic roles, a couple of comedies, and some villianesque jolie type roles). I guess a Tyler Perry hood role won't hurt
-snl skits
- one of the few rappers to get a star on the Hollywood walk of fame
- I want her to be worth over 300m before she bows out since missy is worth around 200m
- kids and a husband as she said in her late 30s...keys under palm trees chillin (sb is the babysitter)
-achieving all this while the thirsty and hungry lames call her crazy, fake, a sellout, and all bad things...
BASICALLY A BLUEPRINT SHOWING THESE FEMALE RAPPERS HOW TO DO IT. (Out of my mind nicki voice "Hallelujah").
Now that's a nicki stat stan post...check my credentials barbz ( career budget analyst by day...nicki stat accolade achievement analyst) any other time
Now exhale and breathe.
the world would be a better place if haters followed Nicki's advise
she made it possible for me to respect pop, rap, every genre because she made gems for all of them 
Truth
