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Discussion: Is it safe to say Frank Ocean is the new prince of R&B?
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Originally posted by Brando
But like seriously, if you are trying to discredit Frank, at least try to do it with someone other than Miguel, cause he's got nothing on him whatsoever.
Prince of R&B is Usher for me. Now bye.
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You literally just got into Frank like a week ago, stop.
Anyways, Frank isn't the Prince of a genre in which he doesn't even claim. There is no current "Prince of R&B." Frank has no defining R&B hit, no definitive R&B album, nothing extraordinary. He's in the same league as The Weeknd and Miguel so his stans stop acting like he's the messiah of music 
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Originally posted by Brando
But like seriously, if you are trying to discredit Frank, at least try to do it with someone other than Miguel, cause he's got nothing on him whatsoever.
Prince of R&B is Usher for me. Now bye.
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Except Usher's king. 
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I see numbers still haven't been provided for Miguel's Grammy boost for his album. 
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Originally posted by Stepfon
Yes the fans from the sold out theater tours have supported Channel Orange, I cannot however say the same for Fortune, it's good to see that Chris can sell out arenas but cannot move albums.
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It's sad to see how Frank Ocean fans are so deluded to believe that CO's sales are actually impressive  you all are acting as if he's pulling 21 numbers
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Originally posted by Genocide
It's sad to see how Frank Ocean fans are so deluded to believe that CO's sales are actually impressive you all are acting as if he's pulling 21 numbers |
Who said they were impressive though sis? 
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Originally posted by Stepfon
I see numbers still haven't been provided for Miguel's Grammy boost for his album. |
was posted some pages back
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Originally posted by Stepfon
I see numbers still haven't been provided for Miguel's Grammy boost for his album. |
I posted it pages ago.
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Originally posted by Stepfon
Who said they were impressive though sis? |
You coming at Chris saying he can't 'move' albums, as if Frank Ocean can 
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Originally posted by ShAv
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I don't play with aggressive 'Gros.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
I posted it pages ago.
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You didn't post the % though, which is how we see who gets the REAL bump, it's okay though.
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There's been so much talk & hype around Frank, his letter, his ~music & I find out he's selling about the same as Miguel. OMG
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Originally posted by Stepfon
You didn't post the % though, which is how we see who gets the REAL bump, it's okay though. |
It was enough to land him back into the top 50 and put him ahead of Frank. HITS doesn't show the percentage +/- for an album that wasn't in the top 50 the week before. The fact that it landed KD back into the top 40 ahead of CO, which only moved up two spots from a 49% increase should be common sense here. 
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Originally posted by Genocide
You coming at Chris saying he can't 'move' albums, as if Frank Ocean can |
Frank: Jimmy Fallon, VMA's, SNL, and the Grammys.
Chris: Dancing With The Stars, The Today Show, BET Awards, Billboard Music Awards, etc. (I am sure there are more but I cannot really think of them at this point.)
I love how promo matters when we are talking about POP girls, but when it comes to R&B MALE stars, you girls think they should be selling like hot cakes. Chris makes music that can easily get played on pop radio and he still hasn't crossed over 500k yet, it's quite sad.
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Originally posted by Genocide
It's sad to see how Frank Ocean fans are so deluded to believe that CO's sales are actually impressive you all are acting as if he's pulling 21 numbers |
We are not
We're proving Channel Orange has sold considerably more than KH, which is true
He had more promo, but that doesn't negate his sales or accolades over Miguel 
At the end of the day, Channel Orange will be the more successful, acclaimed album. Bookmark me.
Neither of them are the R&B Kings, Frank is just closer than Miguel
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
It was enough to land him back into the top 50 and put him ahead of Frank. HITS doesn't show the percentage +/- for an album that wasn't in the top 50 the week before. The fact that it landed KD back into the top 40 ahead of CO, which only moved up two spots from a 49% increase should be common sense here. |
Billboard has Channel Orange up 140% after the Grammy Awards though, I trust them over HITS.
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Originally posted by Butters
We are not
We're proving Channel Orange has sold considerably more than KH, which is true
He had more promo, but that doesn't negate his sales or accolades over Miguel
At the end of the day, Channel Orange will be the more successful, acclaimed album. Bookmark me.
Neither of them are the R&B Kings, Frank is just closer than Miguel |
Considerably more? No.
No one denied that it has sold more than KD, which came out months after CO.
CO is not even 200k ahead of KD, so that's not really "considerably."
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Originally posted by BeamMeUp
There's been so much talk & hype around Frank, his letter, his ~music & I find out he's selling about the same as Miguel. OMG |
Umm, how you gather that?
Miguels sales = 340,311
Franks sales 520k....
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Considerably more? No.
No one denied that it has sold more than KD, which came out months after CO.
CO is not even 200k ahead of KD, so that's not really "considerably."
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CO is 180k ahead of KD if you want to be technical.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Considerably more? No.
No one denied that it has sold more than KD, which came out months after CO.
CO is not even 200k ahead of KD, so that's not really "considerably."
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CO has sold around 800k. How much has KD sold? (I'm talking about worldwide sales)
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Originally posted by Butters
We are not
We're proving Channel Orange has sold considerably more than KH, which is true
He had more promo, but that doesn't negate his sales or accolades over Miguel
At the end of the day, Channel Orange will be the more successful, acclaimed album. Bookmark me.
Neither of them are the R&B Kings, Frank is just closer than Miguel |
Please y'all are running up and down this thread talking about others' sales as if Frank's are THAT impressive CO's sales are mediocre, and the same goes for Fortune and KD as well.
and I haven't said **** about Miguel in this thread so I'll just leave that alone.
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Originally posted by Stepfon
Frank: Jimmy Fallon, VMA's, SNL, and the Grammys.
Chris: Dancing With The Stars, The Today Show, BET Awards, Billboard Music Awards, etc. (I am sure there are more but I cannot really think of them at this point.)
I love how promo matters when we are talking about POP girls, but when it comes to R&B MALE stars, you girls think they should be selling like hot cakes. Chris makes music that can easily get played on pop radio and he still hasn't crossed over 500k yet, it's quite sad.
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I haven't said **** about promotion in this thread, so don't shove words in my mouth.
You guys continue talking about Miguel and Chris' sales and bashing them for it, but you're purposely ignoring CO's sales, which aren't that good either his sales are horrible actually considering the controversy and Grammy promotion he got
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