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Discussion: Is it safe to say Frank Ocean is the new prince of R&B?
Member Since: 6/8/2008
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
And your point? 
He had all the exposure all night. Two Grammys on TV + a full-length performance. His boost was disappointing, and Miguel got a bigger one. |
What was Miguel's Grammy boost for his album?
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
All without selling out or pretending to be bi.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
the great white hope, Frank Ocean
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You and your racism and homophobia are simply unbearable. Let me just ignore your hateful comments from now on.
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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@Dead at the Fonts ignoring me posting the stats. Imma make it easier..
Chart News @chartnews
US album sales: | #92 @Frank_Ocean, Channel Orange 5,800 (520,709).
US digital sales: #115 @Frank_Ocean, Thinkin Bout You 17,095 (1,000,448 total).UK certifications (BPI): @Frank_Ocean, Channel Orange Gold (100,000).
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by Butters
A 2k sales difference isn't all that much  why would you think something like that would put Miguel above Frank?... The important thing is, he still has more sales, recognition, acclaim, and accolades than Miguel. |
And neither is the little total lead he has over Miguel.
My point is, Frank had bigger exposure that night, but it was Miguel who got the acclaim and the bigger boost that night. And Miguel has been outselling him for almost a month.
Frank ain't nothing but hype, and the public is seeing that.
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Member Since: 10/18/2010
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Two albums does not a prince make.
Longevity should play into it as well, and a really good artist can disappear after two albums...
  
The impact will eventually lose momentum... 
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
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But like seriously, if you are trying to discredit Frank, at least try to do it with someone other than Miguel, cause he's got nothing on him whatsoever.
Prince of R&B is Usher for me. Now bye.
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"the great white hope" RIP
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by Brando
You and your racism and homophobia are simply unbearable. Let me just ignore your hateful comments from now on.
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Where is my homophobia or my racism? OMG, do you even know what "great white hope" is?
Go in a hole.
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Member Since: 2/20/2012
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
And you were saying?
And just because you like "unique" artists doesn't mean you're some music connoisseur. Now go and stan for a Pitchfork-loved album.
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Member Since: 6/8/2008
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Originally posted by YeaBey4ever
Admitting that Frank had better promo opportunities? okay.
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Actually Frank has done no promo in the UK to MY knowledge other than appearing in The Guardian and going on the BRIT Awards, so the fact that he has a Gold selling album in the UK is pretty good. Didn't Chris do a worldwide tour and Fortune still hasn't seen any certifications to show for it at all? KI.
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Originally posted by Nait Phoenix
Two albums does not a prince make.
Longevity should play into it as well, and a really good artist can disappear after two albums...
The impact will eventually lose momentum... |
They're all coming back this year though. JT and Lily still have high demand and make good music..Kate Nash(I'm assuming that's her anyway) is a different story though.
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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Originally posted by Genocide
500,000 + 100,000 = 600,000 + 35,000 + 10,000=645,000
you tried
anyway:
Fortune flopped WW, but CO didn't? Sis, Fortune has better charts than CO globally  that indicates it sold more in the majority of the countries CO charted in.
Flop album or not, they're close in sales  |
#Dead at you not realizing that an album sales don't cease at just one certification. it hasn't just sold 500,000 in america. it sold 520,709. Chile you forgot to add canada ... u tried tho.
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Member Since: 5/25/2009
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Originally posted by BlueRanger
So Before the Chris Brown stans or even worst, the J. Holiday stans stampede on this thread with their pressed gif... I will provide receipts.
Receipts- Frank Ocean even before releasing his debut album has wrote for countless other artist .(Beyonce, Brandy, Jay Z)
- Channel Orange manage to sell Gold being when the other R&B dudes can't see copper .(Check the states, Chris Brown, Trey, and Miguel all sold considerably less than Frank)
- He earned two grammys immediately.
In world where all R&B is barely selling albums and R&B the genre is completely diluted---can't we Crown Frank the new prince.
*Ducks the oncoming bricks* |
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Originally posted by Stepfon
Actually Frank has done no promo in the UK to MY knowledge other than appearing in The Guardian and going on the BRIT Awards, so the fact that he has a Gold selling album in the UK is pretty good. Didn't Chris do a worldwide tour and Fortune still hasn't seen any certifications to show for it at all? KI.
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I guess I'll have to spell it out for you. Maurice is banned from the UK (  ) so I think he's okay with his #1 album. He didn't do a "WW Tour"... He did a few dates in sold out arenas and that was it. And with that logic, are the fans at Frank's theater tours picking up CO? "Ki"
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There is no new prince actually.
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Originally posted by BlueRanger
#Dead at you not realizing that an album sales don't cease at just one certification. it hasn't just sold 500,000 in america. it sold 520,709. Chile you forgot to add canada ... u tried tho.
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You must not be using your head today.
That screen-cap is obviously from Wiki, which I'm obviously basing CO's sales off of the certifications posted there alone.
Do you see Canada there? Right, you don't. You only see the four countries there.
Use some common sense before posting, because your irritations are blocking your better judgement.
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Member Since: 10/16/2005
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He's the new queen of R&B.
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Member Since: 4/2/2010
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Miguel is a thing, you know!
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Member Since: 6/8/2008
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Originally posted by YeaBey4ever
He didn't do a "WW Tour"... He did a few dates in sold out arenas and that was it. And with that logic, are the fans at Frank's theater tours picking up CO? "Ki"
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Yes the fans from the sold out theater tours have supported Channel Orange, I cannot however say the same for Fortune, it's good to see that Chris can sell out arenas but cannot move albums.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpe_Diem_Tour
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Member Since: 10/18/2010
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Originally posted by Genocide
They're all coming back this year though. JT and Lily still have high demand and make good music..Kate Nash(I'm assuming that's her anyway) is a different story though.
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Actually, it's Róisín Murphy... 
But, I see what you're saying. We'll have to see if Frank's next album (whenever he plans to release it) fairs well...
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