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  Discussion: Taylor Swift - 'RED' | Metascore: 77/100
 
	
	
		
 
  
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 Must be hard to be Sowing (from Sputnik) right now. I feel for him.    
 
  
 
 
  
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 Wouldn't you know all the positive reviews wouldn't be counted    
 
  
 
 
  
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 lol at spunikmusic being covered on metacritic. I know alot of people on their, but the spunikmusic shouldnt be considered a serious publication. They are biased towards hard rock and alternative. 
 
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The issues, while numerous, start with Taylor’s inability to fully embrace her new style. She seems to spend a lot of time trying to appease fans of her traditional sound, tossing in poignant but forgettable ballads like ‘Treacherous’, ‘I Almost Do’, and ‘Sad Beautiful Tragic’ with no regard to their placement within the track listing – or better yet, whether or not they even belong at all. This results in a bloated album that clocks in at sixty five minutes, when easily less than half of the songs on Red would have qualified for one of her previous albums. The abundance of filler destroys any momentum created by strong, energy exuding tracks, and it makes listening to the album in one sitting more of a chore than any mainstream pop album should be. Hopefully it hasn’t gotten to the point where Taylor thinks that anything she writes is worth hearing, but one go-through of Red would certainly make it appear that way." 
 
This is what Ive Been Saying. The album is not very cohesive, despite it having good tracks, it doesnt feel like an album, but a collection of good songs. 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
  
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 Not bad, not bad.    
 
  
 
 
  
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 76    How do some albums have 100+ critics and yet Taylor only has 20 or so?    
 
  
 
 
  
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 Sputnik has been such a dick to her lately. Some users there really have a stick up their ass. Too bad they are starting to influence people who love her.  
 
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 OMG if the scores too low she can't get VOTY since she's Country. Only Pop albums can get nominated for VOTY with low MC score    
 
  
 
 
  
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				Sputnik has been such a dick to her lately. Some users there really have a stick up their ass. Too bad they are starting to influence people who love her.  
 
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 Seriously. Hopefully she gets a good review from country weekly  and some other places that count to help her score. Otherwise it sucks that the many good reviews are not counted but it happens.  
 
  
 
 
  
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				76    How do some albums have 100+ critics and yet Taylor only has 20 or so?    
			
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 No one has 100+ critics.  
 
  
 
 
  
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				lol at spunikmusic being covered on metacritic. I know alot of people on their, but the spunikmusic shouldnt be considered a serious publication. They are biased towards hard rock and alternative. 
 
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The issues, while numerous, start with Taylor’s inability to fully embrace her new style. She seems to spend a lot of time trying to appease fans of her traditional sound, tossing in poignant but forgettable ballads like ‘Treacherous’, ‘I Almost Do’, and ‘Sad Beautiful Tragic’ with no regard to their placement within the track listing – or better yet, whether or not they even belong at all. This results in a bloated album that clocks in at sixty five minutes, when easily less than half of the songs on Red would have qualified for one of her previous albums. The abundance of filler destroys any momentum created by strong, energy exuding tracks, and it makes listening to the album in one sitting more of a chore than any mainstream pop album should be. Hopefully it hasn’t gotten to the point where Taylor thinks that anything she writes is worth hearing, but one go-through of Red would certainly make it appear that way." 
 
This is what Ive Been Saying. The album is not very cohesive, despite it having good tracks, it doesnt feel like an album, but a collection of good songs. 
			
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 Wait, you play there too? Do or did? Because I did.    For me now, RYM >>
 
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				Sputnik has been such a dick to her lately. Some users there really have a stick up their ass. Too bad they are starting to influence people who love her.  
 
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 Dude, this is coming from Sowing. I feel his pain.    - LP5 will be better.   
And honestly I've changed my opinion on this album too.    
 
  
 
 
  
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				And honestly I've changed my opinion on this album too.    
			
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 I still can't get into Max Martin tracks. And "Starlight". And "Stay Stay Stay". And "Everything Has Changed".     - It's still a really good one tho.  
 
  
 
 
  
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				I still can't get into Max Martin tracks. And "Starlight". And "Stay Stay Stay". And "Everything Has Changed".     - It's still a really good one tho.  
			
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 Starlight and Everything Has Changed are   
The rest are good, though.  
 
  
 
 
  
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				Wait, you play there too? Do or did? Because I did.    For me now, RYM >>
 
Dude, this is coming from Sowing. I feel his pain.    - LP5 will be better.   
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 Did, but like you said Rate Your Music is so much better.   
I think having spunikmusic covered on metacritic is a complete travesty. Its freaking spunikmusic.
 
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				Wait, you play there too? Do or did? Because I did.    For me now, RYM >>
 
Dude, this is coming from Sowing. I feel his pain.    - LP5 will be better.   
And honestly I've changed my opinion on this album too. :shutup:  
			
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 Repeated listening seperates the good albums from the great ones.  
 
  
 
 
  
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				Starlight and Everything Has Changed are   
The rest are good, though.  
			
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 I am biased when it comes to Max Martin, so I don't think my opinion on those three should be counted. But "Stay Stay Stay" is just so out of place.    
And those two tracks are just so boring.    
 
  
 
 
  
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				Did, but like you said Rate Your Music is so much better.   
I think having spunikmusic covered on metacritic is a complete travesty. Its freaking spunikmusic.
 
Repeated listening seperates the good albums from the great ones.  
			
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 RYM is easier to use and more diverse.   
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Ha. True. I've played  Red for 10 times the last 3 days, and now I'm getting the vibe her writing in this record as some kind of watered down Moz solo works.    
 
  
 
 
  
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 But Absolutepunk is on Metacritic's publications list..Isn't that a professional review?   
 
  
 
 
  
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				But Absolutepunk is on Metacritic's publications list..Isn't that a professional review?   
			
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 They are now? Did they include the reviews for SN? If that's the case, her score won't hurt too much.  
 
  
 
 
  
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				They are now? Did they include the reviews for SN? If that's the case, her score won't hurt too much. 
			
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 I am pretty sure AP.net did not count for 'Speak Now'.
 
With the way this is going Country Weekly will trash her too. Jk, because its counted for Metacritic.    Even tho most other country publications have been supportive.   
Disco- yeah its Sowing. But you know how much **** he has gotten for his love for Taylor. Now that he is a staff reviewer there is a bigger pressure for 'elitist views' if you know what i mean.  
 
  
 
 
  
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 RYM.    that site is a piece of ****.  
 
  
 
 
  
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