[jpsketch]

I think Critica is confusing Max Martin with Dr. Luke.


Kelly put Luke and Kurstin on the map.

[P!nkInside]

Originally posted by Taigan

1) Ummm. No, Kurstin did not work with Pink in 2006... Receipts please.

2) Pink rejected Max when she was offered SUBG. Once Kelly made it huge and set off that Pop/Rock anthem trend, Pink was willing to work with him.

1) Ummm do you really wanna challenge a P!nk stan like me to who P!nk worked with or not?

2) The pop-rock anthem was set with Don't Let Me Get Me and Just Like A Pill And SUBG was rejected by P!nk coz it wasn't her style, lyrically.

[Grin Toll]

Originally posted by Taigan

1) Ummm. No, Kurstin did not work with Pink in 2006... Receipts please.

2) Pink rejected Max when she was offered SUBG. Once Kelly made it huge and set off that Pop/Rock anthem trend, Pink was willing to work with him.

Originally posted by CriticalHit

Kelly following Pink's footsteps? Isn't Pink the one who used Max Martin and then Greg Kurstin for hits after Kelly made them popular again? Lol

I'm Not Dead ...released on April 4, 2006....

15. "Centerfold" Pink, Greg Kurstin, Cathy Dennis 3:20

Max Martin broke through as a producer and songwriter in the mid-1990s after crafting a string of hits for pop artists like Ace of Base, E-Type, the Backstreet Boys, Britney Spears, *NSYNC and Robyn and Kelly Clarkson. Some of his earlier hits include "Quit Playing Games (With My Heart)", "...Baby One More Time" and "It's My Life" Would Suck Without You .

Billboard had this to say as well:

"Blow Me (One Last Kiss)" is a welcome return to form for Pink at a time when everyone from Adam Lambert to Clarkson is co-opting her sound.

[Taigan]

Originally posted by P!nkInside

P!nk worked with Greg Kurstin in 2006 #Oop

And Max Martin was an established producer wayyy wayyy before Kelly worked with him.

1) Kurstin has a cowrite on a bonus track for Pink's IND. Let's be honest, his career had no trajectory after that collab. It's only after he worked with Kelly is he now being sought after as a major music producer and hitmaker.

2) Notice how Max's first Pop/Rock smash was with Kelly, regardless of his hits before that, his work on Breakaway started the anthem trend that Pink later picked up with him.

[Taigan]

Originally posted by P!nkInside

1) Ummm do you really wanna challenge a P!nk stan like me to who P!nk worked with or not?

2) The pop-rock anthem was set with Don't Let Me Get Me and Just Like A Pill And SUBG was rejected by P!nk coz it wasn't her style, lyrically.

Those are not Pop/Rock anthems sis...

[P!nkInside]

Originally posted by Taigan

1) Kurstin has a cowrite on a bonus track for Pink's IND. Let's be honest, his career had no trajectory after that collab. It's only after he worked with Kelly is he now being sought after as a major music producer and hitmaker.

2) Notice how Max's first Pop/Rock smash was with Kelly, regardless of his hits before that, his work on Breakaway started the anthem trend that Pink later picked up with him.

1) P!nk worked with him before Kelly.
2) P!nk sang pop-rock anthems before Kelly.

[P!nkInside]

Originally posted by Taigan

Those are not Pop/Rock anthems sis...

No, they're gospel choir songs

[Taigan]

Originally posted by P!nkInside

1) P!nk worked with him before Kelly.
2) P!nk sang pop-rock anthems before Kelly.

1) It doesn't matter that Pink worked with him first if he only was a co-writer and if the song had no commercial or critical impact. Kelly Clarkson established Kurstin as a major music producer and hit-maker. That is an indisputable fact, sis. It's useless to try to argue otherwise...

2) Don't Let Me Get Me and Like A Pill are hardly Pop/Rock anthems... Even if you count them as such, they are bland in comparison to smashes like SUBG, BTHE and NA. Kelly, Avril and Pink are the main Pop/Rock acts, but we all know Kelly did it best first, and she did it with Max Martin...

[Grin Toll]

Originally posted by Taigan

1) Kurstin has a cowrite on a bonus track for Pink's IND. Let's be honest, his career had no trajectory after that collab. It's only after he worked with Kelly is he now being sought after as a major music producer and hitmaker.

2) Notice how Max's first Pop/Rock smash was with Kelly, regardless of his hits before that, his work on Breakaway started the anthem trend that Pink later picked up with him.

1) Producer/songwriter discography

1994: Geggy Tah - Grand Opening- Luaka Bop
1996: Geggy Tah - Sacred Cow- Luaka Bop
2000: Action Figure Party-Blue Thumb Records
2001: Geggy Tah - Into the Oh- Luaka Bop
2005: Rachel Stevens - I Said Never Again



2006: Pink - I'm Not Dead

2006: Lily Allen - Alright, Still
2007: Sophie Ellis-Bextor - Trip The Light Fantastic
2007: Kylie Minogue - X
2008: Sia - Some People Have Real Problems
2008: Kylie Minogue - Wow
2008: Natasha Bedingfield - Pocketful of Sunshine
2008: Britney Spears - Circus
2009: Lily Allen - It's Not Me, It's You
2010: Kesha - Animal
2011: Foster the People - Torches

2011: Kelly Clarkson - Stronger

Sure thing Kelly put him on the map

[jpsketch]

Just a damn mess.

[P!nkInside]

Originally posted by Taigan

1) It doesn't matter that Pink worked with him first if he only was a co-writer and if the song didn't do anything. Kelly established Kurstin as a major music producer and hit-maker. That is an indisputable fact, sis.

2) Don't Let Me Get Me and Like A Pill are hardly Pop/Rock anthems sis. Even if you count them as such, they are bland in comparison to smashes like SUBG, BTHE and NA. Kelly, Avril and Pink are the main Pop/Rock acts, but we all know Kelly did it best first...

1) If P!nk worked with Greg before Kelly did, you can't argue about P!nk 'copying' Kelly. It can only be the other way around; not saying that it is. But P!nk worked with Greg Kurstin first and that's an indisputable fact. Plus, Kurstin had major success with Lily Allen before hand.

2) The only reason SUBG was offered to P!nk first is because it was similar to what P!nk was doing. Kelly is majorly influenced by P!nk and not only fans, but critics have also noticed that. As the good sis Grin Toll has posted receipts as well. And didn't some critics describe a few tracks on Stronger as a fusion of P!nk and Bruno Mars?

[P!nkInside]

Originally posted by Grin Toll

1) Producer/songwriter discography

1994: Geggy Tah - Grand Opening- Luaka Bop
1996: Geggy Tah - Sacred Cow- Luaka Bop
2000: Action Figure Party-Blue Thumb Records
2001: Geggy Tah - Into the Oh- Luaka Bop
2005: Rachel Stevens - I Said Never Again



2006: Pink - I'm Not Dead

2006: Lily Allen - Alright, Still
2007: Sophie Ellis-Bextor - Trip The Light Fantastic
2007: Kylie Minogue - X
2008: Sia - Some People Have Real Problems
2008: Kylie Minogue - Wow
2008: Natasha Bedingfield - Pocketful of Sunshine
2008: Britney Spears - Circus
2009: Lily Allen - It's Not Me, It's You
2010: Kesha - Animal
2011: Foster the People - Torches

2011: Kelly Clarkson - Stronger

Sure thing Kelly put him on the map

Not Brit and Kesha

[MJ Boston]

Y'all can SIT the **** down regarding Kelly and P!nk. They're two of the most flawless vocalists of the 2000s and they both like each other. The P!nk stans and the Kelly stans need to stick together

I don't give a flying **** who worked with who first or who made who successful first regarding these two.. they're too legendary for it to even matter. P!nk worked with him first and Kelly got him his first #1 which is now making everyone scramble for him.

if you disagree.

[Taigan]

Originally posted by Grin Toll

1) Producer/songwriter discography

1994: Geggy Tah - Grand Opening- Luaka Bop
1996: Geggy Tah - Sacred Cow- Luaka Bop
2000: Action Figure Party-Blue Thumb Records
2001: Geggy Tah - Into the Oh- Luaka Bop
2005: Rachel Stevens - I Said Never Again



2006: Pink - I'm Not Dead

2006: Lily Allen - Alright, Still
2007: Sophie Ellis-Bextor - Trip The Light Fantastic
2007: Kylie Minogue - X
2008: Sia - Some People Have Real Problems
2008: Kylie Minogue - Wow
2008: Natasha Bedingfield - Pocketful of Sunshine
2008: Britney Spears - Circus
2009: Lily Allen - It's Not Me, It's You
2010: Kesha - Animal
2011: Foster the People - Torches

2011: Kelly Clarkson - Stronger

Sure thing Kelly put him on the map

Uhhh well Circus is the only other song I know, sis. So you're basically just proving my point for me. His biggest hit is Kelly's WDKY.

Plain and simple.

[Braz]

Originally posted by MJ Boston

Y'all can SIT the **** down regarding Kelly and P!nk. They're two of the most flawless vocalists of the 2000s and they both like each other. The P!nk stans and the Kelly stans need to stick together

I don't give a flying **** who worked with who first or who made who successful first regarding these two.. they're too legendary for it to even matter. P!nk worked with him first and Kelly got him his first #1 which is now making everyone scramble for him.

if you disagree.

No lies!

[jpsketch]

Isn't Stronger not only his first #1, but also his first top 10 single?

[Grin Toll]

Originally posted by MJ Boston

Y'all can SIT the **** down regarding Kelly and P!nk. They're two of the most flawless vocalists of the 2000s and they both like each other. The P!nk stans and the Kelly stans need to stick together

I don't give a flying **** who worked with who first or who made who successful first regarding these two.. they're too legendary for it to even matter. P!nk worked with him first and Kelly got him his first #1 which is now making everyone scramble for him.

if you disagree.

I just stated that Kelly Clarkson stans for Pink and it's obviously not a secret to anyone.
Sone receipts had to be provided after certain attacks
Kelly is chill, one of the best vocalists of this generation. I'd like to see what they'd do together I just don't see it happening

[jpsketch]

Originally posted by Grin Toll

I just stated that Kelly Clarkson stans for Pink and it's obviously not a secret to anyone.
Sone receipts had to be provided after certain attacks
Kelly is chill, one of the best vocalists of this generation. I'd like to see what they'd do together I just don't see it happening

I just don't think P!nk has the time right now.

But Jessie J on the other hand...

[P!nkInside]

Originally posted by jpsketch

Isn't Stronger not only his first #1, but also his first top 10 single?

No one is discrediting that but saying P!nk 'followed Kelly's footsteps' or Kelly started the pop rock trend is bull.

Hope this collab happens though. It's no secret that most P!nk stans were hoping for a P!nk/Kelly duet when P!nk announced there were gonna be a few collabs on TTAL

[MJ Boston]

Originally posted by Grin Toll

I just stated that Kelly Clarkson stans for Pink and it's obviously not a secret to anyone.
Sone receipts had to be provided after certain attacks
Kelly is chill, one of the best vocalists of this generation. I'd like to see what they'd do together I just don't see it happening

Of course Kelly stans for P!nk. Any of her true stans would know that. Kelly has called her the greatest, most underrated talent of our generation.

I think it could happen with KC & P!nk only because they're now on the same label, but I do think it's unlikely as well.