UK - EU In and Out Referendum date Set.


Prime Minister David Cameron has confirmed a referendum on Britain's membership of the European Union will be held on 23 June.



What Cameron managed to achieve:

Immigration

There are new powers to exclude people believed to be a security risk – even if they don’t have prior convictions, and stronger powers to ban and deport criminals.

The deal will also deny free movement to nationals of countries outside the EU who marry EU nationals, in a bid to stop so-called sham marriages.

The deal includes a watered-down version of the “emergency brake” Mr Cameron had been seeking throughout the negotiations.

Rather than a four-year ban on in-work benefits, its allows benefits to be phased in over four years. This compromise followed heavy resistance from eastern European states.

To apply the brake, Britain would need EU approval to apply the brake. But it has already received confirmation it can apply with “full expectation of approval”.

If approved, the brake would last for seven years with no option for renewal, less than the 13 years David Cameron originally sought.

Sovereignty

Mr Cameron wanted a recognition that “ever closer union” didn’t mean “political integration”.

He didn’t get that, but he did secure an agreement to amend existing treaties to make it clear that the references to ever closer union "do not apply to the United Kingdom".

The deal also introduces a “red card” system, where EU legislation can be reconsidered with support of 55 per cent of the 28 member nations.

Eurozone

The deal means that countries not in the euro will not be called on to fund euro bailouts, like those paid to Greece in recent years. It will also see them reimbursed for central EU funds used to prop up the euro.

Mr Cameron’s deal also outlaws discrimination against companies and individuals on the basis of their home currency, which he hopes will help British companies trade in Europe.

Child benefits

Mr Cameron wanted to stop migrant workers claiming benefits for children in other EU countries.

He didn’t get that – but he has secured an agreement to ‘index’ the rate to the child’s home country. In most cases, that’s a lower rate than the UK.


Long wait for the Eurosceptics, but will the Brits finally leave or remain in? Thoughts?

Lets leave bitches

Leave in what terms tho?

I haven't decided my vote yet.

I've heard both sides of the argument and I'm not really sure where I stand, ready to go into this open minded.

50/50 just like the UK electorate. This will be one exciting event.

I hope Britain leaves though tbh the outcome is going to be 55/45 for staying in the union.
UK leaving would speed up the collapse of the EU which is a good thing.

The EU won't collapse and that's a good thing though.

The immigrancy crisis and generally the policies of multiculturalism as well as the need to repay donations by 2004 joiners will cause massive anti-EU revolts in all countries. Look at how much support anti-EU political parties have now throughout all of Europe. Moreover, Britain leaving will make a very bad economic impact on the state of the EU.

I have no idea what to do.. Like I don't know what the pros/cons would be if we stayed in or left.

I don't see this happening. Germany is the only one country now that supports the acceptance of more middle eastern and north african "refugees". Merkel is alone now, soon she will have to turn the page as well. Plus you said it too, the UK won't leave.

It's important for you.

True, but I also said that Britain leaving will speed up the collapse of the EU, not prevent it. It will still happen but will be postponed.

It is confirmed that my country will have to start pay more into the EU budget than it gets after 2020. With the current state of my country's economy, I'm not sure how it's going to affect the public opinion.

And it doesn't matter if we stop accepting immigrants or not. Muslims in Europe do not integrate and their beliefs are incompatible with ours. And they will multiply fast due to the large fertility rate amongst Muslim communities. This will only lead to conflicts and probably our region (Visegrad Group + other neighbours) leaving.

How is that a good thing?

That would be the end of Europe, not only of the Union.

We need to reform our rules, surely not destroy UE.

UK is probably not going to exit though. People still can see that this is no time for fragmentation.

Yes, exactly.

Jan like what is the alternative, putin? lol

I disagree on how the EU looks like. My country and other 2004 joiners were baited into it by donations which were not calculated well enough and no one really knows how much we actually pay into the budget. And in the end, it's a debt we will have to repay.

Moreover, this debt was given to us under the condition of resigning from parts of our sovereignity. The EU does not protect our interests at all, given that Germany and Russia are building Nord Stream, which lowers our energetic security.

Furthermore, my country has been the subject of neocolonialism ever since we joined the EU. I barely see anything produced in my country whenever I enter any shop. Nearly all industrial works have been bought by foreigners and stopped functioning, while the foreign sellers took their place. And the money spent on the products does not benefit my country but goes to foreigners.

Also, EU supports nationalism in Ukraine, while the very same people glorify Stepan Bandera whose nationalist troops murdered 100,000 Poles while ethnically cleansing what now is Western Ukraine. By supporting Ukraine, we also got into a completely unnecessary conflict with Russia.

We also have to pay large money to EU bureaucrats who sit on their arses in Brussels and do absolutely nothing productive. What exactly do we need a European Parliament for?

The EU is pits. Ever since I'm politically aware I oppose this scam.

Also, why can Germany not obide EU law and the rest can't?

This is not a 0/1 thing as you present it. I'd much prefer a union of countries ranging from Estonia in the North to Bulgaria in the south instead of being butt****ed by the West and thanking for it.

They better leave for good. They'd be stupid if they did, though, with all these unfair privileges given to them.

Give me one credible source that says we would have to pay back the funds we received from the EU???