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Celeb News: Label boss destroys Amy Winehouse demos
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Label boss destroys Amy Winehouse demos
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One of the grimmer sights in recent years has been the raiding of the vaults of dead superstars to uncover floods of posthumous albums – using demos and outtakes to create new music.
That will not happen with Amy Winehouse, Universal Music UK chairman and CEO David Joseph has said. Speaking to Billboard, Joseph said he had destroyed her demos to ensure they could not be developed into releasable material. “It was a moral thing,” he said. “Taking a stem or a vocal is not something that would ever happen on my watch. It now can’t happen on anyone else’s.”
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“Taking a stem or a vocal is not something that would ever happen on my watch. It now can’t happen on anyone else’s.”
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Seems extreme, wouldn't her family want them? Though I understand why he wouldn't want to run the risk of her unfinished work being thrown out there for profit, it still seems sad that it's destroyed.
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 Why is it bad? I hope Gaga's team doesn't destroy all her 1000 unreleased songs and ARTPOP act II when she dies
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That's terrible 
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Member Since: 10/2/2011
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I get his rationale being that they shouldn't be put to new material, but...
Why can't they be released as is?
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Member Since: 2/6/2014
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hmmm share for free and keep her legacy going w/o profiting?
seems fishy AF
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I honestly don't like this. Demos, stems, and in-progress work are an intimate look into an artist's creative process and mind; I don't understand why artists and the industry don't celebrate this work, even in death. That's time and work that she put into something that will never be restored or retrieved. Yes, it's problematic to capitalize on death - it's grim like the article says and feels wrong. But why not do something different? Use platforms like Apple Connect to put the material out there in raw form. Say "this is what Amy was like, what she was working on, and what you don't see in the product itself." Do that for living artists, too. Make music consumers a part of the creative process, a part of reflection and mourning, part of the artist.
IDK. I wouldn't have necessarily supported an album being made out of these things because profiting off of someone's death with material they deemed not ready for release can be pretty wrong, but for some reason deleting all that material makes me really uneasy.
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Member Since: 1/4/2014
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I disagree with this.
It's her work, her artistry - it transcends profits and financial gain. It's her work, her life, her legacy. I sure as hell hope her family have a say.
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If he didn't want people to completely remix everything and profit from them he should just have put them out in their original form with all profits going to the foundation. But it's too late, we can never ever get that back. I don't think he has realised what he has actually done
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Don't believe he actually destroyed those demos. And even if he did, someone else has a copy of them.
I belive those songs will see the light of the day one way or another tbh.
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Originally posted by Retro
I honestly don't like this. Demos, stems, and in-progress work are an intimate look into an artist's creative process and mind; I don't understand why artists and the industry don't celebrate this work, even in death. That's time and work that she put into something that will never be restored or retrieved. Yes, it's problematic to capitalize on death - it's grim like the article says and feels wrong. But why not do something different? Use platforms like Apple Connect to put the material out there in raw form. Say "this is what Amy was like, what she was working on, and what you don't see in the product itself." Do that for living artists, too. Make music consumers a part of the creative process, a part of reflection and mourning, part of the artist.
IDK. I wouldn't have necessarily supported an album being made out of these things because profiting off of someone's death with material they deemed not ready for release can be pretty wrong, but for some reason deleting all that material makes me really uneasy.
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I get what you're saying, but I also get his mindset. A lot of the people in the industry just want to profit from you. I think it was a bit of a drastic move, but at the same time I don't really feel all that bad about it either. His intentions were good.
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Originally posted by Retro
I honestly don't like this. Demos, stems, and in-progress work are an intimate look into an artist's creative process and mind; I don't understand why artists and the industry don't celebrate this work, even in death. That's time and work that she put into something that will never be restored or retrieved. Yes, it's problematic to capitalize on death - it's grim like the article says and feels wrong. But why not do something different? Use platforms like Apple Connect to put the material out there in raw form. Say "this is what Amy was like, what she was working on, and what you don't see in the product itself." Do that for living artists, too. Make music consumers a part of the creative process, a part of reflection and mourning, part of the artist.
IDK. I wouldn't have necessarily supported an album being made out of these things because profiting off of someone's death with material they deemed not ready for release can be pretty wrong, but for some reason deleting all that material makes me really uneasy.
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Not every artist feel the same way as you do about demos. Not every artist wants to pull a PJ Harvey. We don't know if Amy would've liked for her demos to be released, so I don't see why they should be released.
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I hope they consulted the family before doing this 
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Member Since: 7/15/2012
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Not sure if glad, or sad. Either way, her three (or two, whatever you prefer) albums already released are enough to make her a great.
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Seems like the kinda think she would have wanted tbh
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They'll pop up someday. Greed always conquers all in the music business.
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