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Discussion: Police: Store clerk accused of shooting beer thief
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Police: Store clerk accused of shooting beer thief
What would have you done in this situation? It's just a beer?
LAS VEGAS (AP) — A 55-year-old Las Vegas convenience store clerk is facing attempted murder and other charges after police say he shot a man in the head as he ran from the store with a 24-pack of stolen beer.
Police said Monday that Mariano Tejeda-Zuniga was arrested after the shooting early Sunday at a 7-Eleven on Maryland Parkway near Vegas Valley Drive.
Friends drove the injured man to nearby Sunrise Hospital & Medical Center, where police say he was treated for a gunshot that struck behind his ear and exited his face.
Police say the wounded man is in his early 20s.
Police reported confiscating a .45-caliber handgun and security video from the store.
Tejeda-Zuniga told investigators he wanted to fire a warning shot when the gun went off and the man fell.
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I used to work in a convenient store. It is very stressful for the owner to run a store and invest this time money and life, so I really do not blame this poor man overreacting to a thief. I hate thievery. 
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Originally posted by that G.U.Y.
I used to work in a convenient store. It is very stressful for the owner to run a store and invest this time money and life, so I really do not blame this poor man overreacting to a thief. I hate thievery. |
stores that are open 24 hours or open past midnight are more prone to getting robbed.
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I dont' undersdant why he didn't call the police first.
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Serves the thief right. Am I the only one who sees no problem here?  no overreaction, the man was STEALING his property!
This happens a lot:
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"Rodney Duve, 52, was arrested with murder after shooting a 39-year-old thief in the head as he attempted to steal beer just after 8pm Saturday night. He was trying to leave the store without paying for a 12-pack of beer, said officials. Duve's attorney says his client is no longer facing charges."
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"For $20.29 stolen from the tip jar of a Houston taco truck, 24-year-old Benito Pantoja was shot with a .357 Colt and killed. The owner of Tacos Del Indio, parked near the Ship Channel, ran him down as he tried to escape with the cash, fired into the getaway car and hit Pantoja in the back."
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Since these incidents occurred in Texas the shooters didn't go to jail. More states should follow Texas' example!
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All this country is about is violence over the dumbest things. All I hear is shoot them, bomb them, wipe them out. All this negativity I hear this type of stuff everyday it's constant.
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Sucks that he died but honestly he shouldn't have stolen so that's the risk you take
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Originally posted by princedonte
All this country is about is violence over the dumbest things. All I hear is shoot them, bomb them, wipe them out. All this negativity I hear this type of stuff everyday it's constant.
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The thief was trying to steal a 24-PACK  would you, or anyone else here, have done anything different than the store owner? I doubt it!
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No one deserves to lose their life over something that can be consumed/replaced.
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Originally posted by Goosey
The thief was trying to steal a 24-PACK would you, or anyone else here, have done anything different than the store owner? I doubt it! |
I would never take a life over something material. Such a Nazi world we live in nowadays everyone has a thirst for blood and doesn't even think twice about it.
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Originally posted by princedonte
I would never take a life over something material. Such a Nazi world we live in nowadays everyone has a thirst for blood and doesn't even think twice about it.
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Well that's pretty strange to be honest. You're aware you will lose the money and the thief will get away?  maybe this is why you don't manage a store in Las Vegas...
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Originally posted by Goosey
Serves the thief right. Am I the only one who sees no problem here? no overreaction, the man was STEALING his property!
This happens a lot:
Since these incidents occurred in Texas the shooters didn't go to jail. More states should follow Texas' example! |
a case of beer worth killing for? Maybe reduce the hours of operation? Less likelihood of getting robbed during daylight.?
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Originally posted by toshibatoshiba
a case of beer worth killing for?
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Wrong question: is it worth dying for?
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Maybe reduce the hours of operation? Less likelihood of getting robbed during daylight.?
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No way, closed store = no profit!
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Originally posted by Goosey
Wrong question: is it worth dying for?
No way, closed store = no profit!
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- I meant is it worth killing someone for he/she stealing a case of beer from you?
-If that stolen case of beer has that of a high effect on your profit, maybe increase the price of goods in your store to make up for the loss? The public becomes aware that you have a gun and that scares away customers?
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I have mixed feelings on this. I would never shoot someone over something so useless as some beer cans... but I understand the fright the man would have had knowing he was being stolen from and that caused the over-reaction. I have no sympathy for those who steal anyway...
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Originally posted by Goosey
The thief was trying to steal a 24-PACK would you, or anyone else here, have done anything different than the store owner? I doubt it! |
Are you seriously trying to convince us that shooting someone IN THE HEAD is an appropriate response to the theft of a case of beer?
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he didn't cause physical harm. if he did then maybe it's justified depending on the severity.
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Originally posted by family.guy123
Are you seriously trying to convince us that shooting someone IN THE HEAD is an appropriate response to the theft of a case of beer?
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They should not be stealing!
I guess your opinion will depend on your culture... here stealing is something wrong... in Texas it's legal to shoot thieves, but cross over into Nevada and it's not? The laws are inconsistent. I agree with Texas.
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On Christmas Eve in 2009, Ezekiel Gilbert paid an escort he found on Craigslist $150 for what he thought would be sex. Instead, according to the San Antonio Express-News, 23-year-old Lenora Frago left his apartment after about 20 minutes without consummating the act. Gilbert, now 30, followed her to a car with a gun and shot her in the neck through the passenger-side window. Frago became paralyzed, and died about seven months later. Gilbert admitted to shooting her but contended that he did not intend to kill.
Gilbert was tried for murder. Last Wednesday, a Texas jury ruled that his actions were legal. That’s because Texas penal code contains an unusual provision that grants citizens the right to use deadly force to prevent someone “who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property.”
Texas A&M Professor Mark Hoekstra, who studies the effectiveness of lethal-force provisions in self-defense law, says the protection-of-property element of the deadly force law is “pretty unique to Texas.” Within Texas, however, the case was not unique. In 2010, the law protected a Houston taco-truck owner who shot a man for stealing a tip jar containing $20.12. Also in Houston, a store clerk recently killed a man for shoplifting a twelve-pack of beer, and in 2008 a man from Laredo was acquitted for killing a 13-year-old boy who broke into his trailer looking for snacks and soda.
Texas law also justifies killing to protect others’ property. In 2007, a man told 14 times by a 911 operator to remain inside during a robbery gunned down two thieves fleeing from his neighbor’s house. (“There’s no property worth shooting somebody over, OK?” the operator said on the call. The shooter’s response: “The law has been changed….Here it goes, buddy! You hear the shotgun clickin’ and I’m goin’!”) He was acquitted the next year.
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Originally posted by family.guy123
Are you seriously trying to convince us that shooting someone IN THE HEAD is an appropriate response to the theft of a case of beer?
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!! Only ATRL. 
Lemme shoot someone in school next time my pencil is stolen and use the excuse 'he took the risk stealing!'.
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Don't steal and you won't get shot.
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