ATRL: Hybrid stans: which side does more?

Rihinvention

I wanted to ask a question to the other hybrid stans of ATRL. Given that you stan for artists whose stan-bases are constantly bickering/fighting on ATRL, which side do you think does the most and why?

I only really want the opinions of fellow hybrid stans, because otherwise it'll turn into a fight of "no you guys started it" or "no, you guys do more" and then this will get closed. Only hybrid stans are the ones who can answer the question objectively. Also, non-stans can answer it objectively. For example, if you stan for neither Katy or Gaga, which side do you think does more to the other? Do you see more "no Grammys and bad live vocals" jokes or more "charts/billboard hot 100, weight and nose" jokes?

It would be nice to have a proper, intellectual, mature conversation about why people on here feel the need to drag other pop stars, whether it's for kiii's or out of boredom or whatever.

MM3

Monsters are more likely to stir up **** but the Hive is more likely to skull drag you if you come for their fave.

Both fanbases are really nice though.

gagacasanova

Gaga's. We need no explanation...

Rihinvention

I'm a NavyHive hybrid and I honestly feel like the Hive do more

That being said, there are a few users in the Navy who get their kiiis, like RomanNavy

but the majority of them seem to find it quite funny. But often with the Hive, when they come for Rihanna, they're dead serious, and it can be regarding something really serious. Like Rihanna will tweet "#FreePalestine" and certain individuals will come into the thread and be like "absolutely pathetic...she doesn't even have the convictions to stick to her own beliefs. Can't believe she would backtrack such a thing" - and it's like...people are dying here. Thousands of Palestinians have been murdered over the past few years and you want to turn this into a little stan-war because you don't like a certain pop star

I think the Hive get frustrated that people come for Beyonce, so they deflect all of that on to the Navy. There's really not that much to come for Beyonce anyway

People say "oh she bleaches her skin and she was never pregnant" and that's it. They might bring up her singles performances, but the whole BEYONCÉ era concept was about being an album artist and making a cohesive body of work.

That being said, I could be biased because I love Rihanna more. And I will admit that if the topic of conversation is the "quick lil singles" comment, the navy do way, WAYYY more, while the Hive defend Beyonce's true intention of that comment (critiquing Pitbull singles and songs like 'Selfie') but I feel everywhere else, it's perpetuated by the HIve more...sorry

Reinvention

When it comes to Madonna/Gaga, Madonna fans are the worst. Generally Gaga fans are just ignorant of Madonna's accomplishments and know only her SEX book, touring acclaim, cone bra etc. Madonna fans literally know EVERYTHING about Gaga and follow her every move, and literally just obsess. It's messy as ****.

Dragonfury

Hives are ruthless if you come for them and its not even a kii.
Gaga vs Kats are kii worthy and some Kats are cool to play along the jokes but mostly Monsters are quick to report.

Summertime Love

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Originally posted by Rihinvention

I'm a NavyHive hybrid and I honestly feel like the Hive do more

That being said, there are a few users in the Navy who get their kiiis, like RomanNavy

but the majority of them seem to find it quite funny. But often with the Hive, when they come for Rihanna, they're dead serious, and it can be regarding something really serious. Like Rihanna will tweet "#FreePalestine" and certain individuals will come into the thread and be like "absolutely pathetic...she doesn't even have the convictions to stick to her own beliefs. Can't believe she would backtrack such a thing" - and it's like...people are dying here. Thousands of Palestinians have been murdered over the past few years and you want to turn this into a little stan-war because you don't like a certain pop star

I think the Hive get frustrated that people come for Beyonce, so they deflect all of that on to the Navy. There's really not that much to come for Beyonce anyway

People say "oh she bleaches her skin and she was never pregnant" and that's it. They might bring up her singles performances, but the whole BEYONCÉ era concept was about being an album artist and making a cohesive body of work.

That being said, I could be biased because I love Rihanna more. And I will admit that if the topic of conversation is the "quick lil singles" comment, the navy do way, WAYYY more, while the Hive defend Beyonce's true intention of that comment (critiquing Pitbull singles and songs like 'Selfie') but I feel everywhere else, it's perpetuated by the HIve more...sorry

I am also a NavyHive hybrid and I can assure you that it's the other way round.

KORDEI

It's very rare that you sign into ATRL and see 3 or 4 trolling threads on page 1 made by a Bey stan about Rihanna. The other way around? Definitely. The Beyhive is defensive and "ruthless." I'll give you that... but besides Comedor, malicious they aren't unless someone bothers them

Sure they troll in threads about Rihanna but it's the same when it's vice versa.

Erik

The Kelly Clarkson stans always start the Kelly vs. Kesha arguments. It's just non-stop on this forum.

Luminary

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Originally posted by Rihinvention

I'm a NavyHive hybrid and I honestly feel like the Hive do more

That being said, there are a few users in the Navy who get their kiiis, like RomanNavy

but the majority of them seem to find it quite funny. But often with the Hive, when they come for Rihanna, they're dead serious, and it can be regarding something really serious. Like Rihanna will tweet "#FreePalestine" and certain individuals will come into the thread and be like "absolutely pathetic...she doesn't even have the convictions to stick to her own beliefs. Can't believe she would backtrack such a thing" - and it's like...people are dying here. Thousands of Palestinians have been murdered over the past few years and you want to turn this into a little stan-war because you don't like a certain pop star

I think the Hive get frustrated that people come for Beyonce, so they deflect all of that on to the Navy. There's really not that much to come for Beyonce anyway

People say "oh she bleaches her skin and she was never pregnant" and that's it. They might bring up her singles performances, but the whole BEYONCÉ era concept was about being an album artist and making a cohesive body of work.

That being said, I could be biased because I love Rihanna more. And I will admit that if the topic of conversation is the "quick lil singles" comment, the navy do way, WAYYY more, while the Hive defend Beyonce's true intention of that comment (critiquing Pitbull singles and songs like 'Selfie') but I feel everywhere else, it's perpetuated by the HIve more...sorry

I'm also NavyHive and idk but it definitely goes both ways. Navy can do a lot as well. It depends tbh, sometimes I see 10 posts in a row of Hive members doing the most and then I see 5 threads of the Navy reaching. I honestly don't know who does the most

But I do agree with some things you said in your comment. I feel like the Navy most of the time just does it for a laugh cuz they actually know that Bey is an amazing artist. However it seems like the Hive doesn't want to acknowledge the same for Rih and they are dead serious about their remarks. So although I see more Navy's coming for Bey, I do believe it's most for laughs but when the Hive goes in, they go IN!

As I said tho I don't really know so I could be wrong, I try not to pay too much attention to it at all. I love both and support both so I try to ignore the threads or posts that do otherwise and I

both the Navy and Hive.

IAmFree

it's better to stay out of it tbh. Gals are 0 to 100 real quick nowadays

!Blue!

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Originally posted by Rihinvention

I'm a NavyHive hybrid and I honestly feel like the Hive do more

That being said, there are a few users in the Navy who get their kiiis, like RomanNavy

but the majority of them seem to find it quite funny. But often with the Hive, when they come for Rihanna, they're dead serious, and it can be regarding something really serious. Like Rihanna will tweet "#FreePalestine" and certain individuals will come into the thread and be like "absolutely pathetic...she doesn't even have the convictions to stick to her own beliefs. Can't believe she would backtrack such a thing" - and it's like...people are dying here. Thousands of Palestinians have been murdered over the past few years and you want to turn this into a little stan-war because you don't like a certain pop star

I think the Hive get frustrated that people come for Beyonce, so they deflect all of that on to the Navy. There's really not that much to come for Beyonce anyway

People say "oh she bleaches her skin and she was never pregnant" and that's it. They might bring up her singles performances, but the whole BEYONCÉ era concept was about being an album artist and making a cohesive body of work.

That being said, I could be biased because I love Rihanna more. And I will admit that if the topic of conversation is the "quick lil singles" comment, the navy do way, WAYYY more, while the Hive defend Beyonce's true intention of that comment (critiquing Pitbull singles and songs like 'Selfie') but I feel everywhere else, it's perpetuated by the HIve more...sorry

Hmm i do also feel like the Hive is more serious or atleast more hives are serious compared to Navys cause i am sure not all Rihanna stans are doing it for the kiis.

In general i think that even though neither is better than the other, i often feel like more Beyonce stans take part in trolling and/or hating on Rihanna than Rihanna stans take part trolling and/ or hating on Beyonce.

Syňth

Kuntz do more than Azaleans because they hate Iggy's success. Azaleans don't bring Azealia up much- it's nearly always the other way around. I love both rappers and it's just my opinion on the fanbases.

Willy.

I find that the Navy starts more with the Hive. A lot actually have a legitimate hate for Beyoncé, just by observation over the past few years. It's interesting.

!Blue!

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Originally posted by Willy.

I find that the Navy starts more with the Hive. A lot actually have a legitimate hate for Beyoncé, just by observation over the past few years. It's interesting.

So do hives against Rih tho

G.U.Y. Gaga

Most monsters don't come for Jessica and vice versa so I'm good

Superpower

The fact that one of the mods, I think it was Patrick, went to the Rihanna Base and said "do you guys know that the Hive never talks about Rihanna in their base as much as you talk about Beyoncé here" says it all.

Jay Fenty

im a rihanna, beyonce and ciara stan.

i think that the hive is more pressed and hateful towards rih than the navy is towards them/bey

as for ciara vs rihanna, im on ciara's side. rihanna started it again for no reason with the 2013 round they had, she was just mad that body party is 10x better than skin.

Rihinvention

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as for ciara vs rihanna, im on ciara's side. rihanna started it again for no reason with the 2013 round they had, she was just mad that body party is 10x better than skin.

I wouldn't say I stan for Ciara, but I definitely love her/her music. But that's one stan-war that is entirely one-sided. The C-squad don't **** around. And they come for Rihanna even when she has nothing to do with the conversation. They'll just be like "ooop, let me bring Rihanna into this and drag her" and it's like wtf, she has nothing to do with this.

It's annoying because I love Ciara, and every time they come for Rihanna, it makes me want to drag Ciara because Rihanna's career is literally 30 times bigger than Ciara's, so dragging them back is so easy. And then I think "wait a minute, I love Ciara."

Rihinvention

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Originally posted by Summertime Love

I am also a NavyHive hybrid and I can assure you that it's the other way round.

I always thought you hated Rih hahahaha.

I guess we're both being biased but more than anything it comes down to individuals. I hate to throw usernames around, so I won't. But there are 3 hive members in particular who never stop coming for Rihanna. And there's definitely individuals in the Navy who do just as much. But with those 3 hive members, they bring the stan-wars into threads that aren't even asking for it.

Like Rihanna will get off a plane, probably exhausted, covering her head with a blanket while running to a car, and at least one of those 3 will run in there and say "what a disgusting person. There were probably people somewhere at the airport who would have liked photos and autographs. How dare she cover her face so they couldn't have been able to tell it was her. How dare she not go find them."

Sometimes it gets so annoying and it's like ugh...just do less.

And then there's other Hive like swissman who justify their opinions maturely, and if he likes something she does, he objectively likes it. If he doesn't, he justifies why he doesn't like it maturely and doesn't buy into the fighting and trolling.