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Originally posted by Fenty The Great
He went on a 4 minute nonstop rant with only accusations and not one actual receipt. He's hardly dragging anyone but himself.
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at people expecting him to get his message across AND state dates, facts, and references in a 3 minute question.
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I personally believe the Syrian conflict has been funded and supplied by the countries that want to get access to their gas pipelines. Proxy wars have been going on in Syria over the pipelines for years. Saudi Arabia and Qatar have pumped millions upon millions into a proxy war in Syria against Assad over oil/gas pipeline issues. They have failed to win the war so now they want to drag Western powers into it ... the USA mainly, but also the UK and France etc.
Meanwhile, the religious fanatics over there are seeing a Muslim vs Muslim war raging. They aren't seeing the gas and pipelines, they are seeing their own version of Islam 'under attack'. So naturally the different Muslim sides go about slaughtering each other in the name of their god.
The powers use these people so attached to their version of Islam to do the fighting for their geo-political reasons in regard to these oil/gas pipelines. They inflame those already saturated with the 'my Islam is right and yours is wrong so you should die' mantra. This makes a ready made army of people willing to die for their 'cause', when in fact they are dying for oil and gas pipelines and political fighting between all the players over there (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Syria, Turkey, Iran, Iraq, Russia and even China by extension).
It's all about oil pipelines and oil independence and dependence. It's all about religious fanaticism and blindness.
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Qatar Seeks oil Pipeline To Turkey
It is not difficult to notice that the rebellion in Syria began to grow two years ago, almost at the same time as the signing of a memorandum in Bushehr on June 25, 2011 regarding the construction of a new Iran-Iraq-Syria gas pipeline...
Syria - The Path of the Pipeline
This new pipeline would take a "land" which starts of Qatar, through Saudi territory and Jordanian territory avoiding Iraqi territory to arrive in Syria and specifically to Homs. From Homs pipeline would branch off into three directions: Latakia on the Syrian coast, Tripoli in northern Lebanon, Turkey.
The main goal of this project is to route the Israeli and Qatari gas to the European continent for distribution throughout Europe, with a threefold objective. The first: break the Russian gas monopoly in Europe. The second: to liberate Turkey from its dependence on Iranian gas. The third: give Israel a chance to export its gas to Europe by land and cost.
Geopolitics of Gas and the Syrian Crisis
These strategic concerns, motivated by fear of expanding Iranian influence, impacted Syria primarily in relation to pipeline geopolitics. In 2009 - the same year former French foreign minister Dumas alleges the British began planning operations in Syria - Assad refused to sign a proposed agreement with Qatar that would run a pipeline from the latter's North field, contiguous with Iran's South Pars field, through Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria and on to Turkey, with a view to supply European markets - albeit crucially bypassing Russia. Assad's rationale was "to protect the interests of [his] Russian ally, which is Europe's top supplier of natural gas."
Instead, the following year, Assad pursued negotiations for an alternative $10 billion pipeline plan with Iran, across Iraq to Syria, that would also potentially allow Iran to supply gas to Europe from its South Pars field shared with Qatar. The Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) for the project was signed in July 2012 - just as Syria's civil war was spreading to Damascus and Aleppo - and earlier this year Iraq signed a framework agreement for construction of the gas pipelines.
The Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline plan was a "direct slap in the face" to Qatar's plans. No wonder Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan, in a failed attempt to bribe Russia to switch sides, told President Vladmir Putin that "whatever regime comes after" Assad, it will be "completely" in Saudi Arabia's hands and will "not sign any agreement allowing any Gulf country to transport its gas across Syria to Europe and compete with Russian gas exports", according to diplomatic sources. When Putin refused, the Prince vowed military action.
AND the religion aspect ... Muslim hating on Muslim ...
NY Times - One Giant Big War
“It has become clear over the last year that the upheavals in the Islamic and Arab world have become a clash within a civilization rather than a clash between civilizations,” Anthony Cordesman of the Center for Strategic and International Studies wrote recently. “The Sunni versus Alawite civil war in Syria is increasingly interacting with the Sunni versus Shiite tensions in the Gulf that are edging Iraq back toward civil war. They also interact with the Sunni-Shiite, Maronite and other confessional struggles in Lebanon.”
Some experts even say that we are seeing the emergence of a single big conflict that could be part of a generation-long devolution, which could end up toppling regimes and redrawing the national borders that were established after World War I. The forces ripping people into polarized groups seem stronger than the forces bringing them together.
Sunni vs Shia Jihad in Syria
Today, however, the battle in Syria is clearly split along religious lines. It is no longer about freedom versus dictatorship, but about Sunni versus Shia. According to Syria’s constitution, “freedom of religion is guaranteed” and “the State respects all religions.” But, as I wrote at the end of 2011, there has been an opportunistic use of religion by the Syrian regime: “Assad has already tried to delegitimise the protesters as Islamist extremists in a bid to garner the support of Syrian liberals and Christians. He is now trying to revive a form of state-backed Islam to defeat the Muslim Brotherhood.”
Almost two years since the article was published, the situation has worsened and religion now takes centre stage. On April 7th, Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the Muslim Brotherhood’s top cleric, gave an interview to Al Jazeera and declared, “The jihad in Syria is now a personal duty incumbent upon all Muslims.” Last year, in early June, he repeated his call for jihad with added vigour: “Iran is pushing ahead with arms and men, so why do we stand idle?” He also pointed to Hezbollah: “The leader of the party of Satan comes to fight the Sunnis. Now we know what the Iranians want. They want to continue massacring Sunnis”.
The Guardian - Syrian War Widens Sunni-Shia Schism as Foreign Jihadists Join Fight
What nonsense.