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Discussion: Hollywood Reporter DRAGS Ke$ha.. Favors Pitbull
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Hollywood Reporter DRAGS Ke$ha.. Favors Pitbull
Pitbull and Ke$ha embarking on a summer tour together may seem like a strange pairing until you remember that the pop artists share a record label – and thus marketing dollars. Another potential benefit of sharing a bill in giant outdoor amphitheaters like the Hollywood Bowl is the cross-pollination of fans, ensuring that each section of the Ke$ha-Pitbull Venn diagram is holding a ticket. But Tuesday evening at the Bowl, the seats were filled primarily with raging Pitbull fans, who filed into the venue mid-way during Ke$ha’s hour-long set, which took place mostly in daylight.
If both artists can churn out Top 40 singles and both sell albums with decent regularity, how does one draw a notably larger crowd when it comes to touring? The answers may lie in each artist’s presentation and how overall image they’ve each generated is translated into a live performance.
For Ke$ha, that image is sex and essentially nothing else. Even as songs like “Blow” and “Crazy Kids” feel like raucous party anthems, the singer seems hell-bent on embodying this persona of an over-sexed, unnecessarily crass rebel whose music is secondary to her shouting things like, “Now will you guys please take your balls out and teabag your neighbor?” Her performance is a spectacle but perhaps not in the way pop is meant to be a spectacle where the visuals should lend new meaning to the music itself. There is no subtlety, no innuendo, no turn of phase. For instance: the track “Dirty Love,” off her recent album Warrior. As if not already abundantly clear in its message, did the song really need the alarmingly explicit visual of Ke$ha poking her finger into one of her dancer’s butts?
From a stripper pole to dancers dressed like drag queens to a series of glittering leotards to an inflatable pink hippo, Ke$ha’s set lacked an overarching vision beyond provocation. When you perform a song like “Gold Trans Am,” how does pretending to weld your crotch while changing the already-blatant lyrics to “Get inside of my vagina” expand and augment a recorded version of the song? If anything, it makes the track seem more like a gimmick than it did before.
Pitbull, on the other hand, has created an image of a cool playboy, ever-clad in a black suit and constantly surrounded by gyrating dancers. But the Cuban singer’s headlining set, which featured almost no production except a light show, four dancers and a band, was far more open than Ke$ha’s. It allowed for a broader audience to embrace its aesthetic and message, although Pitbull’s means of doing so occasionally bordered on cheesy.
For Pitbull, the performance was about playing the hits -- his own or anyone else’s. Each track was introduced with an abridged cover or interlude with songs like Icona Pop’s “I Love It” or Black Eyed Peas' “I Got A Feeling.” Even Jennifer Lopez, who appeared onstage toward the end of the set, was on hand to perform her own new single “Live It Up” rather than guest on one of the several Pitbull songs on which she is featured. The idea was to transform the normally tame venue into a party, one that transcended demographic (although Pitbull’s Latin audience was strongly represented last night). “We make world music,” the rapper said at one point, after rattling off a list of Spanish-speaking countries. “We talk to the whole world.”
From “International Love,” which received a guest appearance from Chris Brown, to “Don’t Stop The Party” to the Enrique Iglesias-led “Baby I Like It,” Pitbull’s set was massive and all-encompassing, generating an unabashed sense of fun in the crowd. That, in many ways, feels like the point of a pop show -- creating an atmosphere that allows your fans to celebrate music and experience a sense of release not encouraging everyone to take their balls out because it serves your own twisted agenda.
Pitbull, who called out Los Angeles twice as his “No. 1 market,” balanced his pop radio singles with his more Latin-inspired numbers, offering onstage banter in both languages throughout the set. Before he closed down the Bowl with “Give Me Everything” and actual fireworks, the smiling singer presented the crowd with his motto: “Pasos cortos, visión larga,” which translates to “Short steps, long vision.”
The two pop stars who took the stage at the Hollywood Bowl clearly have different ideas about artistic sustainability. Ke$ha revealed hers to be largely one-note, empty of anything beyond immediate shock value. But for Pitbull, this long vision consists of building himself up as an artist who is amiable and accessible to the crowd that supports his music. It’s a good lesson.
source - hollywood reporter
This is NOT the first time reviews like this have came in - http://www.montrealgazette.com/enter...#ixzz2VMc2CLIs
http://articles.mcall.com/2013-05-26...tok-ke-pitbull
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Congrats Pitbull..

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Keshas show seems alot more fun tho. 
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That's weird, because when I went to that show, EVERYONE was there for Ke$ha and there were significantly less people when Pitbull came on stage. Who actually likes him?
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the proof is in the pudding

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Is it bad that I'm actually starting to like Pitbull...? A lot...? He seems very smart and humble in his interviews. He's not necessarily cute, but I would still hit..? It's hard to describe.
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“Now will you guys please take your balls out and teabag your neighbor?”
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For instance: the track “Dirty Love,” off her recent album Warrior. As if not already abundantly clear in its message, did the song really need the alarmingly explicit visual of Ke$ha poking her finger into one of her dancer’s butts?
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If Pitbull was a woman they'd trash him for his sexual imagery too, but since it seems cool for a man to brag about his sexuality while a woman is not allowed to do that, here you see...
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Originally posted by ZachM
That's weird, because when I went to that same show, EVERYONE was there for Ke$ha and there were significantly less people when Pitbull came on stage. Who actually likes him?
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Global iTunes Artist Ranking
10. Pitbull
Quite a few people, apparently.

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If Pitbull was a woman they'd trash him for his sexual imagery too, but since it seems cool for a man to brag about his sexuality while a woman is not allowed to do that, here you see...
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I'm not quite sure you read the article, as the things they bashed Ms. Sebert for were much more graphic than anything he's ever done.
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ok @ RaeseanLohan, Ms. Pressed-on-Ke$ha, posting this biased-ass thread  Very cute, hater. Very cute. Keep it up!

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The two pop stars who took the stage at the Hollywood Bowl clearly have different ideas about artistic sustainability. Ke$ha revealed hers to be largely one-note, empty of anything beyond immediate shock value. But for Pitbull, this long vision consists of building himself up as an artist who is amiable and accessible to the crowd that supports his music. It’s a good lesson.
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Hm, they make a good point. The extravagance and overarching grandness of Ke$ha's show might alienate the audience because it might be something too hard to digest vs. Pitbull's more lighthearted, simpler show which could appeal to a broader audience. That might just be why at the end of the night people [or at least the critics] leave more satisfied with him than with her.
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“Now will you guys please take your balls out and teabag your neighbor?”
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lmao 
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I think some people here still don't believe that Pitbull is capable of drawing a bigger audience than Kesha and he has a loyal fan base that will buy to see his concerts. It's not the first time that kesha got a bad review for the tour performances.
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Originally posted by ZachM
That's weird, because when I went to that show, EVERYONE was there for Ke$ha and there were significantly less people when Pitbull came on stage. Who actually likes him?
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This  I was also there and it was 75% Ke$ha fans. Not surprising IMO.
Of course, an adult grown ass person is not going to enjoy a Ke$ha concert. It's basically a freakshow, Ke$ha is f**king nuts and explicit. Of course it's raunchy, that's just how she rolls so, like, "ok" @ people that are "too mature" for it. Maturity isn't the message she broadcasts and it never has been.
Funny story, tho. At the concert I attended, a bunch of moms brought their children to see her and...
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The kids were like, turning around worried every 5 seconds about what Ke$ha was saying because it was
so explicit and NOT safe for children. I mean the tickets said not advised for children. Some parents, tho 
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I think some people here still don't believe that Pitbull is capable of drawing a bigger audience than Kesha and he has a loyal fan base that will buy to see his concerts. It's not the first time that kesha got a bad review for the tour performances.
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The thing is Pitbull is more of a singles artist than anything. He doesn't push many albums which shows that Ke$ha has a little bit of a more loyal fanbase due to her connection with them, whereas Pitbull has success but not as many dedicated, consistently loyal fans. Not saying NO one went for Pitbull, I'd say a large fraction of the people DO go for Pitbull.
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It seems that the GP is in fact more interested in Legend P

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After hearing about that interview where she cries about people being mean to her, I feel really bad for her, but she really does this to herself. 
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Originally posted by collin
The thing is Pitbull is more of a singles artist than anything. He doesn't push many albums which shows that Ke$ha has a little bit of a more loyal fanbase due to her connection with them, whereas Pitbull has success but not as many dedicated, consistently loyal fans. Not saying NO one went for Pitbull, I'd say a large fraction of the people DO go for Pitbull.
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You do know Ke$ha's album sales aren't great either, right?
Pitbull's fan base does not consist of stans like Ke$ha's, but he's more liked in general at the moment.
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After hearing about that interview where she cries about people being mean to her, I feel really bad for her, but she really does this to herself. 
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This! I even posted in the thread how I feel bad for her because she seems like a nice girl... but the good sis brings everything on herself.
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