Celeb News: Charli XCX [also] speaks out

Owl

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I don’t want to make a big deal out of this or anything so I’ll get straight to the point. I just want you to know that I’ve paid my dues and worked my ass off and I have earned the right to be recognised as a credible artist amongst a crop of other credible artists who each create their own music, as well as write for others. I have continuously worked since i was 14, before i was signed, producing my own music, writing my own songs and performing at raves. I did it all solo for 2 years. I don’t think there is any shame in signing a deal, working with other collaborators, re working songs I wrote when I was 14, creating new amazing ones and writing songs for other people too. The fact that you seem to think I have been manufactured and pieced together by a ‘team of professionals’ with ‘a bunch of money’ is totally hilarious to me when I think of the amount of time I’ve spent sitting in my flat with my boyfriend creating my music videos (all apart from one) with zero budget and personally preparing visuals and new audio for my live shows. The idea that you seem to think I have been waiting for something interesting to happen in the ‘DIY’ world so that I can pounce on it and twist it to fit my own more commercial model is also hilarious to me, since I don’t think you can get more ‘diy’ than standing on a ****** crate in a warehouse rave at 4am at the age of 14 dressed as a homemade version of a glittery michael alig era club kid. In fact, I don’t really pay much attention to what’s cool and the ‘next big thing’ at all - like, I’m still listening to the uffie record, like every day, on repeat.
I would never usually respond to something like this because I hate the idea of beef and all that ********. But when I started seeing all of this stuff I was genuinely offended and felt wronged because I have been nothing but genuine and real throughout my musical career and will continue to do so. I don’t mind that you don’t like my music, that’s not a problem. But for you to just dismiss me as ‘some mainstream pop project’ without really even doing your research and accuse me of stealing someone’s **** as a model to make my own success was really, really offensive to me, and also really wrong.
I never asked to be considered in this group of artists that you mention, but I am, and I’m sorry that it offends you so much. To be honest I was equally surprised because not once in my life have I ever said I wanted to make a ‘DIY’ record. I have only ever wanted to make a pop record. And I have been making that record for 6 years, on my own terms, taking my time and doing my thing. I have nothing but respect for Grimes and Sky Ferreira. I think they are both immensely talented artists who are changing the future of music for girls the world over, and to be considered amongst the two of them is frankly an honour. I think it’s a shame that all of this has been said and been blown out of proportion, but i just couldn’t sit there and take all of that **** from someone who doesn’t even know me.
I won’t be responding to any more of these posts now. I’ll just await your feedback critique of my record. It’s out next spring… I’m sure you’re eagerly awaiting the pre order

I don't know if this was already posted

ImpressiveInstant

Read her.

Parks

Yas Charli

EVOL

Good for her!

Can't wait for her album! Spring 2013 is gonna be good (as long as albums are released on schedule)!

Belle

EG/James feels ****** about all of this now but in reality I think he was just speaking his mind...his mistake was not remembering that he has thousands of people paying attention to him. Personally I strongly prefer his music, but I also REALLY REALLY LOVE Charli...I think there's a place for both in music and culture. I wish it didn't take all of the arguing and bad press for the both of them to settle on at least that. Props to Grimes for being so mature about the whole thing though, despite having her name dragged into it multiple times.

Lil Misty

Is this about Grimes?

Twai

Where did all this come from? I missed the backstory.

Archetype

Grimes doesn't even know Charli or Sky. However, she had the audacity to speak about them as if they were "influenced" by her and that Charli shares producers with Justin Bieber. That's just completely out of line, especially the comment about who she works with.

EVOL

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Originally posted by Archetype

Grimes doesn't even know Charli or Sky. However, she had the audacity to speak about them as if they were "influenced" by her and that Charli shares producers with Justin Bieber. That's just completely out of line, especially the comment about who she works with.

I thought the supposed things Grimes' said were not really said by her?

Owl

Just so all of you know, this is a response to Elite Gymnastics

Luke

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Originally posted by ePoise

I thought the supposed things Grimes' said were not really said by her?

No Grimes reblogged the post and added this:

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At the end of the day I think this write-up is too harsh and doesn’t totally represent my feelings on the matter. That said, I think a very dangerous thing has been going on lately, which is that major label artists are being marketed as DIY.

I don’t think that critically we should be easier on artists because they are DIY. But that said, it’s unfair to compare artists who do everything independently with artists on major labels who work with highly lauded producers and songwriters. It’s not the same thing. Major labels are working very hard to make it seem like it is the same thing.

I’ve noticed that it was a lot easier to ‘break’ into a mid-tier level of success even just a year ago, but major labels are regaining their momentum and are also getting a lot craftier when it comes to marketing. There is only so much space and some of it should be reserved for things that are happening without the help of record executives and stylists. It’s important for there to be a platform for artists who don’t have a ton of crazy resources, and that platform will disappear if there isn’t a distinction between major and indie.

** The last thing I want to say is that I feel a bit weird posting this/ writing about this, because I really really like the artists used in the example, both as people and as artists. As a female performer, the last thing I want to do is discourage other female performers. I have zero issues with major label artists, a lot of my favourite artists are signed to major labels.

Then she later made this post:

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I’m going to explain my stance on this whole thing because it’s been totally blown out of proportion.

reblogging this was a bad idea because it’s a lot more negative than anything I would ever write/ think. The ‘case studies’ were Charli XCX and Sky Ferreira, who are both awesome. I have zero beef with either of them and only respect.

Being a female performer in an industry that is utterly dominated by men and gender invites tons of criticism about your appearance and morals and role in the creative process that men would never be subject too can suck. The last thing I want to do ever is fight against women in the industry or make them look bad or discourage them. If I did this in any way, I am deeply sorry. I am very close with the person who wrote the article so I guess I somehow detached myself from the stuff that wasn’t the main thrust (i.e. the authors personal opinions about sky/ charli) because it was a continuation of a discussion we’d been having in real life. I would hate to suggest that either of them isn’t deeply involved in their project or that what they’re doing doesn’t require a huge amount of talent.

The only thing I was interested in communicating was this:

Credit should be given where it is due. The weird middle ground between “indie” and “mainstream” where like, Sky Ferreira and Arcade Fire live takes artists from both streams and sometimes its hard to tell who is doing what. I don’t think either stream is less legitimate than the other.

but they are different, and i think its important to recognize when something is happening independently or when something is happening with a team behind it.

So I’m not saying that Sky and Charli won’t ever produce, or that I’m not completely influenced by major label pop music. I mean, this whole argument stems from an article about how these lines are blurring.

But at the end of the day, even if the packaging looks similar, we are pretty distinct artists, especially in terms of what our roles are in our projects. Sometimes I resent not being credited as the sole writer, producer and performer on my records. I dunno, I think I deserve that.

sky Ferreira and Charli XCX both represent a change in the way that mainstream pop and DIY culture interact and should be given credit for this. I’m really interested in that idea too, but we’re coming at it from different directions and I think it’s important to acknowledge this kind of thing in order to preserve the ‘bottom up’ route, not just the ‘top down’ one. I dunno, I guess thats what I was trying to communicate. I hope this makes sense.

I’m really sorry if anyones feelings were hurt. -_-

c

Drama blown out of proportion tbh...

Rentboy

tell them, Charli

she clearly does her own thing and doesn't take no easy route. As such, she deserves mad respect.