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Discussion: What Defines A Musical Genius?
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What Defines A Musical Genius?
I'm NOT asking you who's a musical genius and who isn't.  I just want to hear your own definition of it.
Discuss.
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Member Since: 2/17/2012
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Someone who makes really good music that is filled with unique, creative, and original ideas.
So someone like Prince.
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Originally posted by madonnas
Someone who makes really good music that is filled with unique, creative, and original ideas.
So someone like Prince.
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Basically all of this, you could say that someone like Madeon is a genius in his area of music. He's only 18 and can create so many amazing songs
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Originality and innovation for the most part but It also depends on personal taste to some extent.
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People like Marina and the Diamonds who are superb in every field.
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Originally posted by madonnas
Someone who makes really good music that is filled with unique, creative, and original ideas.
So someone like Prince.
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I would have to agree here. They have to be and interesting and talented artist who is capable of creating a real spectacle as opposed to the same old stuff you hear everyday. Musical "geniuses" seem, to be honest, to be becoming more and more rare each passing generation; not because there are less of them, but because the mainstream is becoming more and more focused on popular trends. A true musical genius is less likely to break through and be seen nowadays, I think.
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Member Since: 2/26/2012
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Katy Perry.
Edit: Oh, didn't see the OP correctly. Well, Katy represents the qualities one musical genius must have.
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Innovative, game changing.
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Member Since: 6/16/2006
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Musical originality, creativity
Songwriting, musicianship
How it compares to others within the genre
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Member Since: 6/15/2011
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Originally posted by madonnas
Someone who makes really good music that is filled with unique, creative, and original ideas.
So someone like Prince.
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This. But would you say that being groundbreaking is also a prerequisite to being a musical genius? Because just about every artist widely considered a musical genius revolutionized music in some way.
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Originally posted by JonnyϟLightning
People like Marina and the Diamonds who are superb in every field.
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Jonny, please don't be one of those annoying stans. 
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Member Since: 2/17/2012
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Originally posted by Moonage Daydream
This. But would you say that being groundbreaking is also a prerequisite to being a musical genius? Because just about every artist widely considered a musical genius revolutionized music in some way.
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Yes, I would. But being creative/original/innovative sort of goes with that.
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No one in the pop mainstream right now, that's for sure. They're all radio-catered factory machines we feed off of.
Someone who brings an entirely new genre, trend, or a new twist to a pre-existing genre. Pioneers of a new genre
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Member Since: 6/16/2006
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Originally posted by Moonage Daydream
This. But would you say that being groundbreaking is also a prerequisite to being a musical genius? Because just about every artist widely considered a musical genius revolutionized music in some way.
Jonny, please don't be one of those annoying stans. 
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In Some way or another. But it depends on what you mean by groundbreaking. Nirvana didnt break any ground musically, all they did was ape the Pixies, but Kurt is still seen as some sort of genius.
Trend wise, I guess they did break ground in the acceptance of alternative music in the mainstream.
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Member Since: 8/28/2012
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Originally posted by ChandlerBing
Katy Perry.
Edit: Oh, didn't see the OP correctly. Well, Katy represents the qualities one musical genius must have.
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I gagged a little
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Member Since: 11/19/2009
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Originally posted by madonnas
Someone who makes really good music that is filled with unique, creative, and original ideas.
So someone like Prince.
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I agree, and they probably respond to and process music very differently compared to most people.
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Originally posted by Retro Dance Freak
I would have to agree here. They have to be and interesting and talented artist who is capable of creating a real spectacle as opposed to the same old stuff you hear everyday. Musical "geniuses" seem, to be honest, to be becoming more and more rare each passing generation; not because there are less of them, but because the mainstream is becoming more and more focused on popular trends. A true musical genius is less likely to break through and be seen nowadays, I think.
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I was wondering why the music industry has gone to crap, and you pretty much hit the nail on the head.
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Member Since: 8/28/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by Retro Dance Freak
I would have to agree here. They have to be and interesting and talented artist who is capable of creating a real spectacle as opposed to the same old stuff you hear everyday. Musical "geniuses" seem, to be honest, to be becoming more and more rare each passing generation; not because there are less of them, but because the mainstream is becoming more and more focused on popular trends. A true musical genius is less likely to break through and be seen nowadays, I think.
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Their are many forms of a musical genius.
I think one important one is, to not only be able to set trends, but to be able to take the current trends in music and turn them into something greater.
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Originally posted by RaeseanLohan
Their are many forms of a musical genius.
I think one important one is, to not only be able to set trends, but to be able to take the current trends in music and turn them into something greater.
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That, and being able to play a lot of instruments with ease.
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i think someone is a musical genius if they can do this:
. play instruments extremely well
. are great songwriters
. are really good VOCALISTS, which includes having great range, tone, control among many other things.
. Can explore many different topics within the artists music
. Can incorporate many genres in their music
. Can innovate (not necessarily be the first do it) different sub genres of music
etc.....
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