Windows 8 (non-RT) tablets announced at $799+ price points
Acer Iconia W700 - $999
Lenovo ThinkPad Tablet 2 (including its keyboard dock) - $799
Lenovo's Windows 8 tablet, the ThinkPad Tablet 2 (including its keyboard dock), will retail for $799, the company told WP Central Thursday. The 10.1-inch tablet has a 1366x768 display and a reported battery life of ten hours.
WP Central notes that the ThinkPad Tablet 2 is targeted more at enterprise than consumers, and that Lenovo's RT tablet segment will likely hit a $300-$600 price range. The tablet's speculated release date is October 26, right alongside Windows 8 itself.
Acer Iconia W700 - begins at $799.99 for Core i3 model, rising to $999.99
Acer’s Windows 8 tablet, the Iconia W700, will hit shelves on October 26 the company has confirmed, one of the first slates to run Microsoft’s new platform. Announced back at Computex, the Iconia W700 has an 11.6-inch 1920 x 1080 Full HD IPS LCD touchscreen, with a choice of Ivy Bridge based Intel Core i3 or i5 processors lurking inside.
There’s also WiFi a/b/g/n, Bluetooth, a 1-megapixel front-facing camera, and a 5-megapixel main camera good for 1080p HD on the back. USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt is also onboard, and Acer will throw in an HDMI-to-VGA adapter if you’re not quite up to speed with the latest display connectivity. Storage is either a 64GB or 128GB SSD.
However, it’s the cradle which is perhaps most eye-catching, Acer’s asymmetrical design making slotting the W700 in straightforward, and opening up plenty of extra ports. It’ll also recharge the battery, which Acer says is good for eight hours of runtime.
Wtf. So expensive. I wonder how the Surface will be priced.
The price isn't surprising, these are all x86 versions that can run all of Windows 8 including it's desktop apps.
The Surface Pro will be pretty expensive too, though I imagine slightly cheaper than this since they are Microsoft.
The Windows RT tablets, including the normal version of the Surface, that run ARM chips and are meant to compete directly with the current slew of tablets running Mobile OS' will be much much cheaper. Like in the $300-$500 range.
Wtf. So expensive. I wonder how the Surface will be priced.
Windows RT will be much cheaper. I still don't see these x86 ones doing well at all in any market. Not even enterprise considering most of enterprise has already chosen (and likes) iPad. All the non-RT devices can go thataway -->.
These are basically laptops that work as tablets. If they work well they'll be pretty big, probably replacing a lot of the laptop market.
Customers are going to gravitate towards the RT tablets not these ones. Most people I've noticed don't even use the touch screen functionality on their touch screen laptops/desktops. Although Windows RT cannot run any existing Windows applications and there might even be driver compatibility issues. And Ultrabooks kinda already failed so I don't see these tablet hybrids taking off.
Windows RT will be much cheaper. I still don't see these x86 ones doing well at all in any market. Not even enterprise considering most of enterprise has already chosen (and likes) iPad. All the non-RT devices can go thataway -->.
I don't think most enterprise has chosen the iPad though tbh. I actually don't think enterprise is rapidly adapting tablets in general yet. Most of the success of the iPad when it comes to enterprise is because of companies allowing Bring You Own Device situations, not because of the actual company adapting tablets or iPads.
Enterprise is notoriously slow with adapting new technology, hell a good portion of it still uses Windows XP. The Tablet enterprise market( and tablet market in general) is still in a small enough position for more players to become involved.
With that said I agree that I'm also not interested in the x86 Windows 8 devices. The only reason to get them is to run legacy desktop apps, but I've used Windows desktop apps on older Windows 7 tablets, and honestly most of those apps are just irritating experiences on Touchscreens.
I don't think most enterprise has chosen the iPad though tbh. I actually don't think enterprise is rapidly adapting tablets in general yet. Most of the success of the iPad when it comes to enterprise is because of companies allowing Bring You Own Device situations, not because of the actual company adapting tablets or iPads.
Enterprise is notoriously slow with adapting new technology, hell a good portion of it still uses Windows XP. The Tablet enterprise market( and tablet market in general) is still in a small enough position for more players to become involved.
With that said I agree that I'm also not interested in the x86 Windows 8 devices. The only reason to get them is to run legacy desktop apps, but I've used Windows desktop apps on older Windows 7 tablets, and honestly most of those apps are just irritating experiences on Touchscreens.
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IDG's findings are just the latest survey to find that the iPad is the tablet of choice among enterprise users. One survey revealed last October found that the iPad represented 96 percent of total tablet activations in the workplace.
In their last quarterly earnings report in October, Apple officials revealed that 90 percent of the Fortune 500 were deploying or testing the iPad, even though the device had only been available on the market for 18 months.
The price isn't surprising, these are all x86 versions that can run all of Windows 8 including it's desktop apps.
The Surface Pro will be pretty expensive too, though I imagine slightly cheaper than this since they are Microsoft.
The Windows RT tablets, including the normal version of the Surface, that run ARM chips and are meant to compete directly with the current slew of tablets running Mobile OS' will be much much cheaper. Like in the $300-$500 range.
The wouldn't pull those Pro's off. It will be a flop. And the touch screen PC's my other office mates have in their office still prefers the conventional keyboard and mouse.
But if the RT will be priced in the 300-500 dollar range then it could sell decently.
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Windows RT will be much cheaper. I still don't see these x86 ones doing well at all in any market. Not even enterprise considering most of enterprise has already chosen (and likes) iPad. All the non-RT devices can go thataway -->.
Yeah. I really want Windows to successful again but they are making it hard.
That doesn't disprove my point though. I'll try to simplify it and be more clear.
Let's say there are 1000 corporations in the world, and 100 of them decide to use tablets early on, all of which choose to use iPads.
This means the iPad has 100%(100/100) of the current tablet market, and the market currently prefers iPad. However, there are still 900 corporations left that still don't use tablets, so let's introduce microsoft and pretend that now more corporations want to try tablets.
So now 400 of the 1000 corporations want to adapt tablets. Apple sales to 300 of the 400 corporations and microsoft only manages 100.
Apple now owns 75% of the tablet market, and Microsoft 25%.
Even though Apple owns a large amount of the current enterprise market, which is greatly to do with Bring Your Own Device policies like I said earlier and further shown by the small "Device Supplied By work" percentage numbers shown in your graph, Microsoft can still get sales because the current market is still a small portion of all enterprise.
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The wouldn't pull those Pro's off. It will be a flop. And the touch screen PC's my other office mates have in their office still prefers the conventional keyboard and mouse.
But if the RT will be priced in the 300-500 dollar range then it could sell decently.
Yeah. I really want Windows to successful again but they are making it hard.
Oh I agree, I was just trying to explain why the price was so high and make the distinction b/w the Pro ad RT.
The only people that I can see buying the expensive full Windows 8 tablets are companies and I don't think they will be pulling them off selves so it'll flop.
Most of the POSSIBLE sales I agree will come from the affordable RT tablets that everyone can buy, IF they do actually attach to them which is a whole other issue.
The Acers look damn nice, but these prices are ridiculous. It's somewhat justified since this is the version of Windows 8 that actually runs Windows programs, but I wouldn't spend nearly $1,000 on a tablet when you can get an ultrabook (or a cheap/refurbished MacBook) with a keyboard and a bigger screen for the same price
Also, 1080p on an 11" screen is too much. I can tell just by looking at it. I had a 15" laptop with a 1080p screen before my first MBP, and even that was small. They should offer a scaled version and increase the DPI like with RMBP's, because those small buttons mixed with a touchscreen would be very difficult to use.
The Acers look damn nice, but these prices are ridiculous. It's somewhat justified since this is the version of Windows 8 that actually runs Windows programs, but I wouldn't spend nearly $1,000 on a tablet when you can get an ultrabook (or a cheap/refurbished MacBook) with a keyboard and a bigger screen for the same price
Yeah with that money, I'd rather get the MacBook pro or that Asus laptop that looks ****ing sleek.
That doesn't disprove my point though. I'll try to simplify it and be more clear.
Let's say there are 1000 corporations in the world, and 100 of them decide to use tablets early on, all of which choose to use iPads.
This means the iPad has 100%(100/100) of the current tablet market, and the market currently prefers iPad. However, there are still 900 corporations left that still don't use tablets, so let's introduce microsoft and pretend that now more corporations want to try tablets.
So now 400 of the 1000 corporations want to adapt tablets. Apple sales to 300 of the 400 corporations and microsoft only manages 100.
Apple now owns 75% of the tablet market, and Microsoft 25%.
Even though Apple owns a large amount of the current enterprise market, Microsoft can still get sales because the current market is still a small portion of all enterprise.
A huge percentage of the Forbes 500 is testing/deploying the iPad though I mean they're giving iPhones and iPads to everyone at my sister's job (she works at Chevron as an auditor).
The Acers look damn nice, but these prices are ridiculous. It's somewhat justified since this is the version of Windows 8 that actually runs Windows programs, but I wouldn't spend nearly $1,000 on a tablet when you can get an ultrabook (or a cheap/refurbished MacBook) with a keyboard and a bigger screen for the same price
Also, 1080p on an 11" screen is too much. I can tell just by looking at it. I had a 15" laptop with a 1080p screen before my first MBP, and even that was small. They should offer a scaled version and increase the DPI like with RMBP's, because those small buttons mixed with a touchscreen would be very difficult to use.
The Acer looks weird imo and that home windows button looks out of place.
These are low-end laptop replacements with a full fledged OS, Windows 8, not iPad competitors. The RT only version, as in, the gimped and less functional version of Windows 8, will be on the iPad competitors with a similar $500 price.
I mean they're giving iPhones and iPads to everyone at my sister's job (she works at Chevron as an auditor).