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News: Anti-doping agency VP: Ye Shiwen accusers are "sad"!
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Anti-doping agency VP: Ye Shiwen accusers are "sad"!
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Arne Ljungqvist, medical commission chief for the International Olympic Committee, called the speculation "sad."
"For me, it is very sad that an unexpected performance is surrounded by suspicions," he told a briefing.
"I mean to raise suspicion immediately when you see an extraordinary performance - to me it is against the fascination of sport."
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Some americans doing the most. 
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How can you not be suspicious? A 15 year old girl swam faster than a 27 year old man who rolls 600-800 pound tires everyday to train.
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and the fact that people are saying its because she beat a man is even sadder i thought we was out the dark ages i guess not.... but im glad the americans are getting dragged for it all across the internet/news... the girls only like 16 getting attacked by grown men that cant leave there egos at the door and accept they lost
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Originally posted by HausOfJabril
How can you not be suspicious? A 15 year old girl swam faster than a 27 year old man who rolls 600-800 pound tires everyday to train.
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sis, china is doing the absolute most!!!!, and they are trying to get people to think this is real. i mean really china, just like they got caught using 8 year old girls in the olympics smh
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Originally posted by HausOfJabril
How can you not be suspicious? A 15 year old girl swam faster than a 27 year old man who rolls 600-800 pound tires everyday to train.
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Any of the Olympic weight-lifters makes Lochte look like a weakling - doesn't mean if you put them in the water they would win. Its like claiming the car with the biggest engine will always beat a smaller one, which is false.
Lochte might be stronger, but he is also heavier than Ye, and that doesn't even take into account the issue of being able to cut through the water - after all, those old suits they banned didn't make people stronger, they cut water resistance and that made the difference. Differences in technique and shape can make a massive difference in who much resistance someone faces as they try to cut through the water.
This specific line of argument is not that strong at all. That said, given the nature of swimming competetions over the years, it would not surprise me horribly if doping had occured.
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The Olympic Committee is full of ****. It seems like China always gets a free pass.
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Originally posted by Albany Guest
Any of the Olympic weight-lifters makes Lochte look like a weakling - doesn't mean if you put them in the water they would win. Its like claiming the car with the biggest engine will always beat a smaller one, which is false.
Lochte might be stronger, but he is also heavier than Ye, and that doesn't even take into account the issue of being able to cut through the water - after all, those old suits they banned didn't make people stronger, they cut water resistance and that made the difference. Differences in technique and shape can make a massive difference in who much resistance someone faces as they try to cut through the water.
This specific line of argument is not that strong at all. That said, given the nature of swimming competetions over the years, it would not surprise me horribly if doping had occured.
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Weight-lifters aren't trained swimmers though? 
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What about the lithuanian girl? She was also 15 and noboby's saying anything
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Both the Olympic and Ye Shiwen's own family rallied around the Chinese swimming prodigy following suspicions over her record-shattering performance in the pool.
Ye arguably has proven the sensation of the Olympics so far after the 16-year-old won gold in the women's 400 metres individual medley on Saturday, taking five seconds off her personal best and more than a second off the world record.
However, it is the fact she swam the final 50m of the freestyle leg of the event in a faster time than men's champion Ryan Lochte that has really raised eyebrows, with American coach John Leonard branding her performance 'suspicious', 'disturbing' and 'unbelievable' and making comparisons with previous doping cases.
Ye has insisted 'there is absolutely no problem' with her dramatic improvement because the Chinese team adhered rigorously to anti-doping policies.
London 2012 chairman Lord Coe said it would be 'very unfair to judge an athlete by a sudden breakthrough'.
He told ITV News: 'What you tend to forget is probably the 10 years of work that has already gone in to get to that point.
'You need to look back through her career. I think you've got to be very careful when you make judgments like that but, yes, it is an extraordinary breakthrough.'
British Olympic Association chairman Lord Moynihan said: 'We know how on top of the game WADA [World Anti-Doping Agency] are and WADA have passed her as clean. That's the end of the story.
'And it is regretable there is so much speculation out there.
'I don't like it. I think it is wrong. That athlete or, indeed, any athlete that has never tested positive is an athlete who should be supported by her federation and, indeed, everybody in the Olympic movement.
'Let us recognise that there is an extraordinary swimmer out there who deserves the recognition of her talent in these Games.'
The International Olympics Committee told Ye's critics to 'get real'.
'These are the world's best athletes competing at the very highest level,' IOC communications director Mark Adams said.
'We have seen all sorts of records broken already all over the place.'
He added: 'It is inevitably a sad result of the fact that there are people who dope and who cheat.
'But I equally think it's very sad if we can't applaud a great performance. Let's always give the benefit of the doubt to athletes.'
Ye's father, Ye Qingsong, told Chinese news portal Tencent that he accepted it was 'normal for people to be suspicious' but added: 'The western media has always been arrogant, and suspicious of Chinese people.'
Jiang Zhixue, who leads anti-doping work at China's General Administration of Sport, told the country's state news agency Xinhua: 'I think it is not proper to single Chinese swimmers out once they produce good results. Some people are just biased.
'We never questioned Michael Phelps when he bagged eight gold medals in Beijing.'
Jiang said China's swimming team had made breakthroughs due to scientific training and sheer hard work.
He added: 'The Chinese athletes, including the swimmers, have undergone nearly 100 drug tests since they arrived here.
'Many were also tested by the international federations and the British anti-doping agency. I can tell you that, so far, there was not a single positive case.'
Deputy anti-doping chief Zhao Jian claimed Leonard 'thinks too much', pointing out China had come down hard on doping since a spate of problems in the 1990s.
Adams insisted this morning London 2012 had 'a very, very strong drug testing programme and we are very confident that, if there are cheats, we will catch them, as we already have done'.
Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt added that the Games had 'some of the most rigorous, if not the most rigorous, anti-doping procedures in place for any Olympics'.
'We've been absolutely determined to make sure that this is the cleanest Olympics ever,' he told the BBC.
In a final, the first five athletes are tested compulsorily along with two others, the IOC said.
Some 1,706 tests have been carried out so far, including 1,344 urine tests and 362 blood tests, the IOC added.
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I always knew she was innocent, Americans do the most.
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Yay 
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good 
I can't believe people thought she wasn't
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Originally posted by HausOfJabril
How can you not be suspicious? A 15 year old girl swam faster than a 27 year old man who rolls 600-800 pound tires everyday to train.
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she did not swim faster. ryan lochte had a faster time by over 20 seconds
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His overall time was faster. She was faster in the last length.
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the race was a 400m IM not a 50m freestyle
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Originally posted by slayHa
sis, china is doing the absolute most!!!!, and they are trying to get people to think this is real. i mean really china, just like they got caught using 8 year old girls in the olympics smh
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No they didn't
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disappointed that there's less drama surrounding the issue cos drama is always fun on this kinda scale. regardless i'm glad she's been proven clean cos she swam amazingly and she deserves it. the american coaches are just jelly.
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 @ ppl got mad over the little girl. I think it's not doping (even tho it's still possible), other than what Albany Guest said there, it looks the crazy training by China and her own hard work made her as this record breaking swimmer at such a young age.
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