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Discussion: Statistics help
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I need help
Which (or which group of things) do you think best determines a successful college student?
sex (SEX), high school percentile (HSP), cumulative GPA (GPA), age (AGE), total credits earned (CREDITS), classification (CLASS), school/college (COLLEGE), primary major (MAJOR), residency (RESIDENCY), admission type (TYPE), ACT English score (ENGLISH), ACT math score (MATH), and ACT composition score (COMP)
btw I'm winging a statistics project
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I don't normally wing projects but there are 900 pieces of data and I am too lazy to analyze it
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GPA, Class, College, Major
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Sex.

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Originally posted by Dephira
GPA, Class, College, Major
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Originally posted by Husky
Sex.

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That's what I thought first, then I realized what it meant 
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reasonable, but in the data values that I am provided there are more females than males so I have to take that into account.
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I'm dying here, I really shouldn't have delayed this
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I wasn't being serious in my first answer. I also totally thought it meant how much sex one was having.
I feel like I can answering two questions here - how successful a student is in college, and how successful a student is after he/she graduates college. For example, (COLLEGE) and (MAJOR) may apply more after graduation, while (HSP) and ACT scores may apply more during college itself.
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WHow many are we allowed to choose?
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Originally posted by Amaru
WHow many are we allowed to choose?
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There is no limit but do not go over board. I would say 4 max
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I have the data values in excel if anyone wants to see them
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Let's see if I can break down each one.
sex (SEX) - I know there are studies on this, but I really think if a person is either driven or talented at their subject of study, it doesn't matter what gender he or she is.
high school percentile (HSP) - This could be a good indicator of a person's success in college.
cumulative GPA (GPA) - Fairly important both during and after college.
age (AGE) - I think this is similar to sex. An 18 year old student can know just as much or more than a 40 year old student about any given subject.
total credits earned (CREDITS) - Not important.
classification (CLASS) - ?
school/college (COLLEGE) - This can be important for different reasons. A smart person going to a less-than-stellar college will succeed in that college, but may be handicapped after graduation.
primary major (MAJOR) - Similar to above. Some majors are generally more successful than others post-graduation.
residency (RESIDENCY) - ?
admission type (TYPE) - ? Like undergrad/graduate etc? Not as important during college I think.
(ENGLISH) / (MATH) / (COMP) - I'm putting these together because I think they're equally important during college.
I'm gonna say (GPA), (COLLEGE), and (MAJOR) are the most important factors.
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Originally posted by Husky
Let's see if I can break down each one.
sex (SEX) - I know there are studies on this, but I really think if a person is either driven or talented at their subject of study, it doesn't matter what gender he or she is.
high school percentile (HSP) - This could be a good indicator of a person's success in college.
cumulative GPA (GPA) - Fairly important both during and after college.
age (AGE) - I think this is similar to sex. An 18 year old student can know just as much or more than a 40 year old student about any given subject.
total credits earned (CREDITS) - Not important.
classification (CLASS) - ?
school/college (COLLEGE) - This can be important for different reasons. A smart person going to a less-than-stellar college will succeed in that college, but may be handicapped after graduation.
primary major (MAJOR) - Similar to above. Some majors are generally more successful than others post-graduation.
residency (RESIDENCY) - ?
admission type (TYPE) - ?
(ENGLISH) / (MATH) / (COMP) - I'm putting these together because I think they're equally important during college.
I'm gonna say (GPA), (COLLEGE), and (MAJOR) are the most important factors.
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class is freshman, sophomore, junior, senior
Residency- is if they live on campus or not
admission type- new admittance, transfer, re admittance
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Originally posted by Lonƹ
I need help
Which (or which group of things) do you think best determines a successful college student?
sex (SEX), high school percentile (HSP), cumulative GPA (GPA), age (AGE), total credits earned (CREDITS), classification (CLASS), school/college (COLLEGE), primary major (MAJOR), residency (RESIDENCY), admission type (TYPE), ACT English score (ENGLISH), ACT math score (MATH), and ACT composition score (COMP)
btw I'm winging a statistics project
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I would say, Major, GPA, and Credits? I'd be interested in seeing Age vs Credits, just because some people take dual-enrollment and AP/IB classes at younger ages and I believe that is seen favorably. Oh, what the heck, let's add age.
Major (because certain majors are looked at more favorably or challenging than others while others show more creativity, which can still be seen as successful), GPA (sadly, that usually is a good marker of motivation, not necessarily intelligence, which is great for college success evalution), Credits (as mentioned earlier), College (competitiveness of colleges help show background on how successful they were in HS and that can help show some trends, but not always true and there are many successful students at varying colleges), and Age (as mentioned earlier). You could actually compute Pearson's correlation coeffecient (for linear regressions) to find out if there are variables that are more dependent on each other to remove some variables later.
As you brought up, it may not be a good sample size if you have a lot more females versus males, so I would not actively put in gender as a category.
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Originally posted by orange
I would say, Major, GPA, and Credits? I'd be interested in seeing Age vs Credits, just because some people take dual-enrollment and AP/IB classes at younger ages and I believe that is seen favorably. Oh, what the heck, let's add age.
Major (because certain majors are looked at more favorably or challenging than others while others show more creativity, which can still be seen as successful), GPA (sadly, that usually is a good marker of motivation, not necessarily intelligence, which is great for college success evalution), Credits (as mentioned earlier), College (competitiveness of colleges help show background on how successful they were in HS and that can help show some trends, but not always true and there are many successful students at varying colleges), and Age (as mentioned earlier). You could actually compute Pearson's correlation coeffecient (for linear regressions) to find out if there are variables that are more dependent on each other to remove some variables later.
As you brought up, it may not be a good sample size if you have a lot more females versus males, so I would not actively put in gender as a category.
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I'll show you a visual representation of age vs credit
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@orange

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Originally posted by Lonƹ
class is freshman, sophomore, junior, senior
Residency- is if they live on campus or not
admission type- new admittance, transfer, re admittance
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Oh, duh. 
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