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Celeb News: Disturbed says "something's wrong" with Beyoncé's nomination
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Disturbed says "something's wrong" with Beyoncé's nomination
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On Tuesday morning (Dec. 6), hard-rock vets Disturbed secured the second Grammy nomination of their career, as their somber live rendition of Simon & Garfunkel’s “The Sound of Silence” was among the finalists for Best Rock Performance. The Chicago quartet, who included the cover on their 2015 album Immortalized, will compete against Twenty One Pilots’ Top 10 smash “Heathens”; the title track from David Bowie’s final album, Blackstar; a live performance of Alabama Shakes’ “Joe”; and “Don’t Hurt Yourself,” from Beyonce featuring Jack White.
When asked about that last nominee — Beyonce’s first appearance in the rock category, from her Album of the Year nominee Lemonade — Disturbed frontman David Draiman tells Billboard that, yes, competing with Queen Bey in this context is a little startling. "I have mad respect for all the artists in this category, including and especially Jack White,” Draiman says. "Is it strange [to be up against Beyonce]? I think the reason you asked the question is because it is. It definitely stands out — like, one of these things is not like the other, you know? But what are you going to do?"
Yet Beyonce’s unexpected nomination in the rock field is "not what bothers” Draiman, whose group has scored five No. 1 albums on the Billboard 200 chart since its formation two decades ago. "What bothers me is that everybody in this category are giants of the field,” he explains. "These are the biggest of the big, the people who made a serious impact this year. Those boys in Twenty One Pilots did some damage this year. And Bowie, a posthumous award happens all the time, and who more deserving? It’s crazy the amount of talent in this category.”
Draiman continues, "When did it all become ‘rock'? If you look at every other genre, there are so many categories and sub-categories. For rock, this is all we’ve got, so everything ends up being jammed into these four categories. Is it diverse? Absolutely. It’s too diverse! When you can have, with all due respect, a Beyonce and a Disturbed in the same category, something has gone wrong. Not taking anything away from her whatsoever, we’re just very different from each other.”
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Source: http://www.billboard.com/articles/ne...n-beyonce-rock
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hmm idk this article is written horribly
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Wasn't aware there was a standard for what can and cannot be nominated in the Rock category.
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hmm idk this article is written horribly
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Oop!
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Originally posted by SHICD
hmm idk this article is written horribly
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nominee Lemonade — Disturbed frontman David Draiman tells Billboard that, yes, competing with Queen Bey in this context is a little startling. "I have mad respect for all the artists in this category, including and especially Jack White,” Draiman says. "Is it strange [to be up against Beyonce]? I think the reason you asked the question is because it is. It definitely stands out — like, one of these things is not like the other, you know? But what are you going to do?"
Draiman continues, "When did it all become ‘rock'? If you look at every other genre, there are so many categories and sub-categories. For rock, this is all we’ve got, so everything ends up being jammed into these four categories. Is it diverse? Absolutely. It’s too diverse! When you can have, with all due respect, a Beyonce and a Disturbed in the same category, something has gone wrong. Not taking anything away from her whatsoever, we’re just very different from each other.”
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He's just backtracking because he's afraid of the backlash 
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He's just backtracking because he's afraid of the backlash |
yeah that's what i'm seeing too. billboard wanted the headline, but skewed what he was saying to make it ambiguous so he wouldn't face backlash. It's clear that he has some kind of issue with Beyonce being in the category because (1) it's one of her first real attempts at rock (2) she's black and (3) isn't this category also usually dominated by men?
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I get what he's saying tbh. The rock genre is another whole world and it might seem weird for a song that wasn't really worked and promoted to the rock audience to be nominated. I love DHY though.
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Originally posted by SHICD
yeah that's what i'm seeing too. billboard wanted the headline, but skewed what he was saying to make it ambiguous so he wouldn't face backlash. It's clear that he has some kind of issue with Beyonce being in the category because (1) it's one of her first real attempts at rock (2) she's black and (3) isn't this category also dominated by men?
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Those pressed artists need to understand the award is about the song and not the act. Lady Gaga is not a jazz singer but she did win in the jazz category.
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I completely agree with his point to be honest.
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Beyonce song is not even rock 
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It's not. It's a rock song, with soul influences, but rock wouldn't exist without soul, so it's rock in it's most purest form. It's probably the most "rock" song nominated. Because Disturbed are a "Heavy Metal" band... that's a subgenre of rock music. Don't Hurt Yourself is more in line with 70s rock, which is the decade that rock music really took off on it's own.
Disturbed is not more rock than David Bowie is tho. There should be no "subgenres", it would never end. That would mean that every band would need a nomination in a different subgenre of rock, that's not realistic.
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Don't hurt yourself is more Rock than Heathens for example
Just because the singer is an R&B girl it doesn't mean she can't do a rock song.
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Beyonce song is not even rock |
You're right. It's folk and everyone knows it.
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I get what he's saying tbh. The rock genre is another whole world and it might seem weird for a song that wasn't really worked and promoted to the rock audience to be nominated. I love DHY though.
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This. 
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Remember the old days when Tina Turner and Donna Summer snatched nominations and wins in the Rock categories
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I agree with him 100%. He's not saying Beyonce didn't deserve a Rock nom, he's saying the type of Rock "Don't Hurt Yourself" is is incomparable with the type of Rock Disturbed tackled with "Sound of Silence". Them competing for the same Grammy is a little odd.
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Originally posted by Solarie
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Don't Hurt Yourself is definitely a rock song. It's basically Bey singing over a Led Zeppelin track.
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I searched about previous nominations in that category and...
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Coldplay - "Every Teardrop is a Waterfall"
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Coldplay - "Charlie Brown"
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Elle King - "Ex's & Oh's"
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BYE
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I agree with him 100%. He's not saying Beyonce didn't deserve a Rock nom, he's saying the type of Rock "Don't Hurt Yourself" is is incomparable with the type of Rock Disturbed tackled with "Sound of Silence". Them competing for the same Grammy is a little odd.
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I get what he's saying, it would increase the odds of them and others winning too.
But if you start nominating artists in every subgenre of rock, the Grammys would be a 30 hour show.
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