Someone from another forum (Shayonce) did really good research. I'm just sharing it here.
Part 1. Rumors
1). Rumor - Emotion / "Beyonce said she wrote this song on TRL back in the day. I remember!"
Truth: Original TRL interveiw Script
Quote:
Beyoncé: Thank you, Kelly. I wrote and produced "Independent Women [Part 1]" and "Jumpin', Jumpin'." Then I did "Survivor" and "Bootylicious" and the label loved it. [Same with] "Nasty Girl," "Emotions," "Happy Face," and "Apple Pie a la Mode." The label kept saying, "Do another song, do another song, do another song." It wasn't planned. It wasn't something like I said, "OK, I'm going to take charge."
MTV: The Bee Gees' Maurice Gibb said he likes your cover of "Emotion."
Beyoncé: Whoa, that's amazing.
Kelly: You're always scared to do cover songs 'cause the artists, they're legends. The Bee Gees are legends and we just wanted to do it right so if he says it's cool with him, then yay!
MTV: What made you choose, of all songs, to cover that one?
Beyoncé: Our manager, Mathew Knowles, told us we should do it. We always feel scared about doing cover songs, 'cause if they're not as good, then you shouldn't even waste your time. We didn't know if we could do it, so instead of trying to compete, we did it different and added our Destiny's Child flavor to it. Vocally, it's the strongest song on our album. It features everybody you can really hear all our voices. All of us are very thankful to the Bee Gees for writing that [beautiful] song.
She also doesn't have credit on the song for writing. She has a production credit for her vocal production.
2) Rumor: Bootylicious / "Beyonce was exposed by songwriter! chechk the interview!"
Truth: Original Interview
Quote:
Q : Did "Bootylicious" come together in a similar fashion?
I came up with the idea to build a track using the guitar riff from Stevie Nicks' "Edge of Seventeen." I really wanted to play the riff from "Eye of the Tiger," but I was flipping through my CDs in the studio and I couldn't find it. But I saw the Stevie Nicks CD and I remembered that the riff was similar. I figured I'd put the guitar loop on there temporarily, and later go into the studio with a guitar and replay it, because I'd learned, after sampling Stevie Wonder's "I Wish" for Will Smith's "Wild Wild West," that I didn't want to lose 50% of the publishing. I vividly remember telling Mathew Knowles, "Mathew, you got to book me into your studio and let me replay that riff." It was Guitar 101! One note!
Q: But Mathew didn't want to do it?
He didn't want to do it. So 50% got cut for one note. That whole experience was bittersweet for me.
So, basically he wanted to steal the sampling part, but Matty said no. How did this turn into Beyonce stealing?
Quote:
Stevie Nicks on Bootylicious
Stevie’s most famous solo single ‘Edge Of Seventeen’ was borrowed for Destiny’s Child’s smash ‘Bootylicious’. What did she make of that? “Oh, Beyonce called me to ask if they could use it,” she says, blasé. “So I own 50 percent of ‘Bootylicious’
Beyonce holds 25% of the song while Rob Fusari and his producing partner 'falonte moore', together hold 25%.
From Studio History Book
3. Rumor: Listen / "she was exposed by Academy, and removed from nomination"
Truth: Beyonce was removed because of the new rule that had been implemented in 2005 and she had the least amount of contribution to the song.
Quote:
In 2005, the AMPAS ratified a pair of rules designed to limit the number of statuettes handed out on awards night. One of those rules — officially known as Rule 16 — capped the number of songwriters who can receive an Oscar at three, stating that “no more than two statuettes will normally be given,” but making a provision for a third statuette “when there are three essentially equal contributors to a song,” according to the organization’s Web site. Rule 16 was meant as a way to combat the ballooning songwriting credits attached to songs submitted for Oscar consideration (seven different co-writers were credited on the Counting Crows’ nominated song “Accidentally in Love,” from 2004’s “Shrek 2″). AMPAS spokesperson Teni Melidonian told MTV News that the rule was enacted “to ensure that the songwriters/composers who made the greatest contributions to the song are recognized accordingly.”
In the event of a studio submitting a song with three or more credited songwriters, the executive committee of the Academy’s music branch — a committee made up of composers, songwriters and “individuals involved in making music for motion pictures” — determines which three writers made the greatest contribution to the song. And only those three individuals are eligible for an Academy Award. According to Melidonian, in the case of “Listen” — which is credited in the soundtrack’s liner notes to Henry Krieger, Scott Cutler, Beyoncé Knowles and Anne Preven — the executive committee met in December, determined that of the four songwriters listed, Knowles contributed the least, and, as such, her name will not be included on Oscar ballots.
Quote:
Scott Cutler (one of writers)
Oscar rules limit the amount of nominees in the Best Song category and, as one of five writers credited with Dreamgirls hit Listen, Knowles missed out on a nod. But Cutler insists the singer/actress won't be left out of he wins gold. He says, "Beyonce helped that along a lot - little lifts in the melody, little lifts in the song that we hadn't thought of. She just kept sending back ideas, thoughts, what she wanted. "I'll cut my Oscar in the middle and give her half."
4. Rumor: Still in Love (Kissing You) / "she got slammed with lawsuit for stealing credit!"
Truth: The lawsuit wasn't over writing credit.
Quote:
According to the suit, Beyoncé's team originally sought clearance on February 13 to use "interpolations" of the Des'ree song. On March 5, the Royalty Network's lawyers answered by submitting a counter proposal in which they granted permission — within certain limits. For one thing, they would allow use of the song, but not in video form. They would also allow use of the song only if the title were not changed
5. Resetnment / "Beyonce took it from Victoria and takes credit and added nothing!"
Truth: The song went for sale as Victoria's album scrapped and then jazmine sullivan took it. but let go, and fianlly beyonce took it. (jazmine's version is same as victoria's)
Lyric Comparison.
6. Irreplaceable / "ne-yo exposed her, she didn't do anything"
Truth: This is the beginning of whole Beyonce fake songwriting rumor. Particularly this one was huge news and gossip blogs started made up things for attention. As opposite of what haters say, ne-yo never said she didn't contribute.
Quote:
Neyo: I wrote the lyrics, I wrote all the lyrics. Beyonce helped me with the melodies and the harmonies and the vocal arrangement and that makes it a co-write. Meaning my contribution and her contribution made that song what it is."
7. Rumor: If I were a boy / "Beyonce stole the song from young girl!"
Truth:
Quote:
Toby Gad Interviews (writer/producer of the track)
The controversy about "If I Were A Boy"- I met BC Jean via MySpace, and when I saw her talent, I invited her over to NYC to write a few songs together. Ten songs later, I tried to get her connected to managers, publishers and record labels in order to get her a record deal. Many months and rejections later we said "look, we tried everything but we could not get a record deal, let's at least try to shop those songs we wrote to other artists and get one of the songs to become a hit first, this way the songs will live and it can even open doors for BC." So I began playing the songs to other artists. On a session I had with Beyonce, I played her the song and she immediately wanted to record it. After BC heard that recording, she changed her mind. I don't want to elaborate on what happened after but we resolved it amicably and I am happy that as a result of the success of the single, BC got signed to J-records http://monicamania.blogdrive.com/archive/4409.html
We wrote the songs and I wanted to shop around for a record deal. One of those songs was If I were a boy. she was angry with her boyfriend and said 'if i were a boy I wouldn't do that, I thought, hold on, that sounds like a title. I tried to find her a record deal but nobody wanted to put the money on the table. So I pitched the songs to other artists. a few months later I was in studio with Beyonce and plated her the song, she jumped up and said toby, I want to sing this song right now' back then it sounded more like a rock song. but a few hours later it sounded amaing. beyonce really added another dimension to the song. http://www.tobygad.com/images_2010/xmag.png
+ Beyonce is not credited as a writer.
8. Diva / "Producer Bangladesh Expose her right?"
Quote:
Bangladesh Interview
The Diva beat is a twin of the Millie beat its from the same baby. I had the inspiration and I was brainstorming and it turned into Diva. I put it out and thought who would be better on the track than Beyonce. Sean Garrett the songwriter wrote Diva for her. He writes for everybody and when I played it for him and he liked it so much that it made his day.
Diva demo version by sean garret. LOL
Part 2. Songwriting
Here's some of Beyonce's writer credit percentage. Usually 50% lyrics/50% music. so If Beyonce has 50%, it means she wrote the lyrics herself. Basically the whole Suvivor album was written by beyonce except Emotion and anything that was sampled.
8 Days of Christmas 50%
Spread a Little Love on Christmas Day 50%
Apple Pie a la Mode 50%
Bootylicious 25% (Stevie Nicks for the sample 50%, 2 producer together 25%)
Bow Down 50%
Brown Eyes 50%
Cater 2 U 30% (5 people on credit)
Crazy in Love 7.5% (sampling 50% / jay z 5% / rich harrison 37.5% - he did the music/track
Dangerously in Love 50%
Dance with Me 50%
Dot 50%
The Story of Beauty 50%
Fancy 50%
Game Over 20% (sampling 50%, other 4 producers = 30%)
Destiny's Child Gospel Medly 41.67% (for the arrangement)
Independent women part 1 50%
independent women part 2 - B+Eric = 73% (Beyonce is probably 50%)
Happy Face - B+ Calvin C = 62.5% (probably Beyonce 50 and other 4 people got 12.5 each)
Green Light 42.5%
Got's my Own 30% (6 people on the list)
Jumping Jumping 50% (3 producer 50% together)
Kitty Kat 55% !!
Lose my Breath - 39.34%
My Heart Still Beat 50%
Nasty Girl 30% (sampling.)
Through With Love 25%
Daddy 50%
Sexy Daddy 60%
Do it Again 32.5%
Rise up 13.87
Standing on the sun 15%
God made you beautiful 15%
1+1 15%
Dance for You 15%
Pretty Hurts 5%
Haunted 25%
Blue 25%
Heaven 25%
Jealous 15%
No Angel 20%
Rocket 10%
Superpower 10%
Partition 50% (single version without yonce)
Drunk in Love 33.34%
7/11 25% (probably 25% each)
Feeling Myself 12.5%
Part 3: Songwriters
1. Survivor (wrriten by Beyonce, Matthew, Anthony Dent)
Beyonce hold 47%, matthew 3% and anthony 50%
Anthony Dent Interview (Producer of Survivor, Nasty Girl)
2. Independent Women Part 1 & 2 (written by B. Knowles, *S. Barnes, C. Rooney, *J. C. Olivie)
Poke and Tone interview (Producer of independent women part 1)
Quote:
Poke: Columbia had the Charlies Angels soundtrack and they needed a record for the soundtrack. They started off as a regular version. They came in and were like, Fix the ****ing record. So it was like Independent Women Part 2 is the real version.
Beyoncé was in Hawaii doing a show with Destinys Child. Columbia didnt want her to write the record, they were like, No, she cant write the record. We need someone to write it. We get on the phone and were like, They dont want you to write the record. But we know what you're capable so go ahead and write the record.' - Poke
We sent her the track, she knocked it out, Donny Ienner and them complained like, The record is linear. Its not a hit. It doesnt sound good. Blah blah blah. Then the record goes to radio and blows the **** up. So they were complaining about the record thinking it wasnt a hit and they were dead wrong. It wound up breaking all types of records, it had the biggest audience ever at radio, it was ridiculous. The only record that came after that that was bigger was 50 Cents In Da Club. At the time, the biggest radio record ever was TLC Scrubs. Then the Destinys Child came in and blew that **** over the top. It was like, Holy ****.
3. Fancy ( written by B. Knowles, D. Wiggins, J. Rotem )
Beyonce hold 50% of this song since she wrote it.
Quote:
J. Rotem interview (co-wirter but actually producer)
So I made a few tracks and they got to Dwayne Wiggins of Tony Toni Toné, who took a couple tracks to Beyoncé of Destiny's Child, because Dwayne Wiggins was the one who signed Destiny's Child to Sony/Columbia. And Beyoncé ended up writing to a couple of my tracks, one of which got placed on the "Survivor" album by the name of "Fancy".
Q:So that song you did for Destiny's Child got you the first big break?
J.R. - It was one of my first ones. I actually wasn't even credited as a producer, I was credited more as a writer and instrumentalist, even though the track was my track. But yeah, that was the first major label thing that happened to me.
Q: You won a Grammy for producing Speechless (2003) for the superstar Beyoncé
A: That was a big moment for me, because that was the first time Beyoncé had ever been that candid about a sexual experience on a record. Previous to that, all her records were just about love and relationships. And this was the first erotic record that she had ever done.
The day I produced that track with Sherrod Barnes, the first thing I was thinking was This has such a sexual erotic Isley Brothers vibe. I was really studying Ernie Isleys guitar solos at that time. When I got the track to Beyoncé, she wrote exactly what I wanted to say where I was going with it. It automatically connected, and thats why the record came out like it did. http://www.hitquarte...4_17_13_26.html
5. Crazy in Love
Quote:
Rich Harrison interview
Beyoncé warmed up to the sample and then said something that, in his wildest dreams, Harrison would have never imagined, nor would he want to: "I love the idea," he recalled Beyoncé saying. "Now write the song. I'll be back in two hours." Harrison stepped up and wrote the verses and the hook, and Beyoncé wrote the bridge.
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Ryan Tedder
"The greatest singers each have their 'thing' that they do better than anyone else. Beyoncé's thing is taking a great song and making it an event. She adds her own personality and vocal prowess like a master chef adds the missing ingredient to his signature dish. Beyoncé brings that missing ingredient.
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Makeba Riddick (Songwriter)
Beyonce mentioned you in a recent interview on MTV, and said that you were one of the women who inspired her while working on her album "B'Day". How did that make you feel? And did you enjoy working with her? Well Beyonce has been mentioning me in a lot of interviews and it makes me feel incredible. The first time I heard her mention me on an interview I was driving and I was so shocked to hear her say my name on the radio I almost crashed. I couldn't believe it. She such an inspiration to me from her music, to her drive to everything she's achieved as a young black woman. It blows me away to think any lil thing about me would inspire her. It's an honor. We had a ball in the studio working on her album. It was like a 3 wk slumber party for real. I think we all enjoyed each others company. I grew close with not only her but her cousin and sister who also wrote with us on the album. That's the most fun I've ever had working with an artist.
We worked together every day, pulling 14-hour days," Riddick says of the recording process. "I see the reason why she is the biggest artist of our generation: Her work ethic is unlike anything I've ever seen. She would tell us to be there at 11 o'clock in the morning and we would be there until, like, four or five in the morning. But she would be there before 11 a.m. When we got there, she was already there, working.
"Her concepts were so incredible," Riddick continues. "I never saw an artist have so much of her own vision and know exactly what they want to say. She would say, 'I have this crazy idea for this song, check out this situation.' We would be talking, bugging out — three hours later, then comes the song."
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Dave Pensado (FAMOUS Mix Engineer who is currently doing big youtube channel for engineers and producers ) Beyonce just hears those harmonies in her head. She was born with them. Her dad, Matthew is quite a good singer, and I believe Tina sings also. She usually starts off with the tonic, and builds from there. She does a little experimentation, and then blends them herself with the engineer. I love her timing. She has no regard for the beat, but it always sounds right. I don't think I have ever seen anyone work harder than Beyonce . I've seen her fly in from Europe, come to the studio, do vocals for 4 hours, fly to NY for concert, go directly to airport for 2 shows in Japan, and on and on. No sleep for days, and just keep going and loving every minute of it. Mya is like that also. I get tired just TYPING about it!
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Rob Stringer "She's incredibly creative," says Rob Stringer, chairman of Sony Music Label Group. "She also works phenomenally hard to create the opportunities she has. People tend to think there's always an image-maker behind female pop stars. That's not the case with Beyoncé. There's no element of diva or difficulty about her; she takes control of the process and makes it happen. She's grown beautifully in that role."
Sony's Stringer adds, "Other artists pretend they have control over what they do. Beyoncé really does. She's growing as an artist more rapidly than anyone thought."
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DJ Swivel on the Making of Beyoncé’s “4” (Engineer) Beyoncé really co-produced this whole album herself as well. For the rest of us, it was executing her ideas. It was: bring a horn section in, a live bass player¸ being able to meld all those live instruments along with the programmed element of it to bring in a new sound. I feel like it was achieved, because there’s not a lot of songs that sound like that. She’s introducing a new sound to pop music with records like that. A lot of these songs weren’t just, “Go in, record the song and it’s done.” [B]Beyoncé really spent a lot of time producing the songs. She would come in, change lyrics, add harmonies. [.B] We may have recorded these songs in five different locations, because we were always coming back to songs and adding, or making revisions. That sounds like a freeing process. Yes. There was no “We’re doing this today.” It was a very kind of open project, where whatever she felt like recording at that time was what we’d work on. It was based on how she felt, her mood, and also her listening to the demos that writers would give us. She was always tweaking, always getting it right. Until she felt 100% on it, the song was not done. Seeing her work ethic is so inspiring, because she’s always trying to perfect everything, and it really shows. That’s why she is who she is. She knows what she wants, how she wants it to sound, and we won’t finish a record until the bell goes off in her head, and she’s like, “Its perfect.”She’s really the hardest-working person in music. I remember once we worked 36 hours straight, and she sang six full songs. Usually if I go in with an artist, and we get just one song of leads and backgrounds done that’s good. She did six songs in one day.
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D’wayne Wiggins (Producer)
I recall a time in the studio when I would arrange vocals and Beyoncé would be on the mic. I would throw her a harmony, not to do on the mic, and she would follow up with a barrage of harmonies and melodies that would blow my mind.
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Beyonce on her Songwiriting (in 2008) 'I have writers that I write with, or I have writers that will send me a full song, and I'll rearrange it - change the second verse, change the melody, keep a chord that I like, and recreate it. Just depends. I might bring in whoever I think can help the song. When I have just a beat it's the most fun for me. I'll get somebody to play whatever I hum for the bassline. So I'm creating a whole track with my voice.'
Waiting for the Hive to get to this haha. One thing I do find odd though, is why the media attacked her authenticity if she is truthful? MJ and Janet didn't get pulled up for their songwriting credits.
1. Love on Tops' Famous Key Changes! it was beyonce's idea.
2. Scared of Lonely
She totally change the chorus and wrote new lyrics. and amazing background vocal on bridge. "And I'm scared of being the only shadow I see along the wall
And I'm scared the only heartbeat I hear beating is my own
And I'm scared of being alone
I can't seem to breathe when I am lost in this dream, I need you to hold me"
Demo:
4. I Care
Clear differences in the lyrics and a lot more structure added to the song. https://soundcloud.com/kravenworks/b...aven-who-cares
Great watch (He talks about how involved Bey is at around the 40 minute mark)
5. Satellites
demo by amanda ghost (was for her own album)
Totally different sound.
6. Disappear
original demo by hugo
She add Amazing harmonys and new bridge
"I MISSED ALL THE SIGNS, ONE AT A TIME
YOU WERE READY, WHAT DID I KNOW STARTING OUR LIVES
NOW MY LOVE I’M READY TO SHOW"