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News: 70 year old man stoned to death for homosexuality:
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70 year old man stoned to death for homosexuality:
A 28-year-old Upper Darby man has been charged with murder after telling police that he stoned a 70-year-old man to death when the man made homosexual advances toward him, authorities say.
John Joe Thomas, 28, of Sunshine Road in Upper Darby, spent almost every day with 70-year-old Murray Seidman at Seidman’s Lansdowne home, police say. Days before Seidman’s body was found on Jan. 12, Thomas allegedly beat Seidman to death with a sock full of rocks.
Thomas told authorities that he read in the Old Testament that homosexuals should be stoned to death. When Seidman allegedly made homosexual advances toward him over a period of time, Thomas said he received a message in his prayers that he must end Seidman’s life, according to court documents
Police say that Thomas struck Seidman in the head about 10 times with the sock of rocks. Thomas left Seidman dead in his apartment, and then threw his bloody clothing and the bloody sock in a dumpster, according to authorities..
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RIP
The Christians are defending his actions in the comments. This country is sad.
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Originally posted by Fireman25
Thomas told authorities that he read in the Old Testament that homosexuals should be stoned to death. When Seidman allegedly made homosexual advances toward him over a period of time, Thomas said he received a message in his prayers that he must end Seidman’s life, according to court documents
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And that's the problem with religion, folks.
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I wish he would have tried that stunt on my time.
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Wheres that thing that states that women have to always cover up, ect. that has all of those other contradictions that christian's ignore?
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WTF?!
It's sad, a message to kill somebody?
Yeah that's preetty cristian :/
I just can't believe how this world is. Complete ignorance
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Originally posted by Jewfro
And that's the problem with religion, folks.
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No, that's the problem with people who have clear mental issues.
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This really makes me mad. Religion is supposed to be about love and acceptance, but yet we always see those horrible things done because of it.
People believing in any religions have to understand that it's something stricly personal and let others live their lives as they want.
YOU'RE NOT THE ONE TO JUDGE WHO'S BAD, WHO DESERVES TO BE PUNISHED, TO DIE, ETC. gosh....
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Originally posted by MrPeanut
No, that's the problem with people who have clear mental issues.
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So there's no problem with a book commanding acts of violence?
Edit: Also, religion teaches you (at least the major monotheistic religions) that you can communicate personally with God. So, would you likewise call someone who claimed God told them to help someone crazy for thinking God told them something? Additionally, how do you tell the difference between God and your own volitions?
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Originally posted by ririgagalover
Wheres that thing that states that women have to always cover up, ect. that has all of those other contradictions that christian's ignore?
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I think that's Islam
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Originally posted by Jewfro
And that's the problem with religion, folks.
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Excuse you......
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jewfro
So there's no problem with a book commanding acts of violence?
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I'm saying religion wasn't the factor that made him do this. He clearly had mental issues that set him apart, and he didn't react well to the old gay man making advances toward him.
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Originally posted by Jewfro
So there's no problem with a book commanding acts of violence?
Edit: Also, religion teaches you (at least the major monotheistic religions) that you can communicate personally with God. So, would you likewise call someone who claimed God told them to help someone crazy for thinking God told them something? Additionally, how do you tell the difference between God and your own volitions?
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Actually no, the book doesn't command acts of violence. It's how individuals interpret the Bible.
EDIT: That, you just have to deal with. If they believed God told them to do such an act, they should still get punished
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Originally posted by Jewfro
So there's no problem with a book commanding acts of violence?
Edit: Also, religion teaches you (at least the major monotheistic religions) that you can communicate personally with God. So, would you likewise call someone who claimed God told them to help someone crazy for thinking God told them something? Additionally, how do you tell the difference between God and your own volitions?
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No boo, you don't know what you're talking about. zip it!
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Originally posted by MrPeanut
I'm saying religion wasn't the factor that made him do this. He clearly had mental issues that set him apart, and he didn't react well to the old gay man making advances toward him.
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That's debatable though. Not everyone who kills has a mental disorder. If you think it's the "God told me to do it" part, many, many religious people claim God told them to do something. Would you say they have mental problems too, even if they claim they were commanded to do something good?
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lol, he wanted to get some before dying.. the women weren't giving so....
This is truly sad
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Originally posted by RatedG
Actually no, the book doesn't command acts of violence. It's how individuals interpret the Bible.
EDIT: That, you just have to deal with. If they believed God told them to do such an act, they should still get punished
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How does the Bible not command violence when it's pretty common knowledge that it commands one to stone homosexuals (that's just one instance)? It's not up for interpretation.
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No boo, you don't know what you're talking about. zip it!
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Please enlighten me then
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