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Discussion: Can we talk about this? (The Trinity)
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Can we talk about this? (The Trinity)
I was dragging this ugly bitch on Youtube for calling Beyonce a devil worshiper when it hit me. Do you guys think the reason "The Trinity" isn't doing as well as they were last era right away is because people are mistaking high fashion, avant garde, and edge for something else? You know there are people who really believe in that illuminati ******** and think the girls are apart of some weird group stuck on worshipping satan for fame. Anyway, I start thinking even deeper, the most successful popstar this era has been Katy Perry so far (weird right)? BUT, Katy has not dont one thing slightly edgy or out of the box this era. Everything is pretty, light, fluffy, cute, and very high school fantasy, love themed. E.T was kind of edgy but it went the song and it was strictly alien based. Sure critics are praising them for taking risks and doing something different than what they usually do but the masses dont seem to like it that much as of right now. We might think we know the masses but we dont, sure Gaga is flying up to the top of iTunes, but she is falling just as fast. Britney is getting no.1 single, but they arent lasting and are flying down the charts, and Beyonce hasn't even gotten to the top yet. With their albums on the way I hope this trend doesn't continue, Britneys has already come out and has barely moved 550k, which is an all time low for her.
Beyonce: is starting a Soviet Union Style Revolution and running an entire planet wearing avant garde.
Britney: is celebrating the world ending.
Gaga: is using biblical references in songs.
And while WE understand that this is all just for show, some people (who arent as exposed as us) may be taking all of this the wrong way. I thought back to Rihannas Rated R era when she did the whole dark, angry theme with the Russian Roulette video and the barbed wire cover and she got the same exact response. What the hell is up with people who want everything to be pretty and cute all the time. I honestly prefer the dark, dangerous, edgy, non commerical (cause it honestly is) approach to themes and imagery from them. Some might argue that its the music that is making them fall short so far, but we have seen much worse music top the charts for weeks on in so I dont buy that. What do you think?
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Member Since: 9/23/2009
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I'll share my thoughts on this momentarily....but I TOTALLY agree sis.
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Member Since: 5/3/2010
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I think there needs to be a new trinity.
*Katy, Rih, and Gaga/Bey can fight over the last spot.*
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Originally posted by ririgagalover
I think there needs to be a new trinity.
*Katy, Rih, and Gaga/Bey can fight over the last spot.*
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I think you need to take your idiocy someplace if you're not going to respond to the topic at hand.
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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Originally posted by Ace Reject
I think you need to take your idiocy someplace if you're not going to respond to the topic at hand.
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Member Since: 5/3/2010
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Originally posted by Ace Reject
I think you need to take your idiocy someplace if you're not going to respond to the topic at hand.
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The topic is about the Trinity, no? I simply stated that I think there should be a new one. I knew someone would throw a fit.
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Member Since: 10/28/2009
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Originally posted by satellites™
I was dragging this ugly bitch on Youtube for calling Beyonce a devil worshiper when it hit me.
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Member Since: 7/10/2010
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Orginal Trinity Beyonce(******** since the late 90's), Gaga(Biggest pop star in the world right now), & Brintey(******** since the late 90's)
Bubbling under *Kesha, Katy, & Rihanna*
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All I can say is there will be future albums if the era is under performing then the public hasn't gotten used to it, at least doing these "edgy" things is helping music evolving like it's always been. Katy's album is very commercial that's why she's doing so well with Teen Dream album. But I doubt if she will ever have another album like that, remember Fergie and her album with 4 top (& runner-up) [LB, Glamorous, Fergilicious, Big Girls Don't Cry] singles on Hot 100, will she make another album with that magnitude of success. NO! That's Katy Perry success right now..
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Originally posted by satellites™
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It is weird that the Big Three are having such ... difficulty. I find it a little bit unsettling, to be honest.
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Gaga is doing decently but her album is too "out there" to be as big as a smash as her debut to be honest. I honestly cant even picture the publics reactions to her future singles and to be honest I dont really want to.
Im sure Beyonce will be fine since RTW will go Top 10. She is moving in a direction that I like. Even though I dont particularly like RTW, the video is one of her best to date and the choreo is on point so as long as it does decently her second dingle/album will be fine.
Britney... its all her fault. In this day and age you have to promote if you want your song to be a smash and she just doesn't seem to get that to be honest.
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Britney comes out with Hold It Against Me -- the first American artist to really take on dubstep and release it into top 40 radio....the single falls like a rock and doesn't self-sustain. Britney releases Till the World Ends, a fun and catchy yet generic song -- and it's her biggest radio hit of all-time.
Beyonce tries something new with Run the World, mixing club beats and traditional African influences with a universal female empowerment concept yet the single has a tough time taking off. Beyonce's most commercial, safer and pop-ish album, IA...SF takes off -- Single Ladies is a MAJOR hit.
Lady GaGa's most radio friendly hit Born This Way finds massive success, but the quasi radio friendly, yet the dark grunge pop single Judas fails to make any major impact.
Why is it that the general public keeps clinging to basic pop tracks when artists are out there trying to progress the music industry away from the status quo?
I love Katy Perry, Ke$ha, etc....but I totally agree with sats in saying that the less commercial, original and risky stuff is by far the more engaging piece of music. I would easily take something less safe like Run the World over something generic like Teenage Dream. Rated R was a flawless album with deep, emotional and engaging tracks but it was Rude Boy that became the hit track.
Sadly, I find that the general public isn't here for new and original. While there are many stans out there, we still make up the minority of sales and control when it comes to the success of a song or album. Example: Katy Perry, she has a small stanbase yet her singles light up radio and iTunes -- the general public eats up her safe radio hits because they aren't into music like we are. They don't analyze every word, or nuance in the production like we do. They are unaware of receipts like we are.....they just want to gobble up the carefree stuff. It's a hooks and chorus world right now.
It takes decades for music to migrate into the next big thing and the trinity are testing the waters a bit too early with new sounds when it comes to singles.
On another note, Britney, Beyonce and GaGa are at the point in their careers where they can afford to be risky, against the common sounds on the radio unlike someone like Katy or K$ who have to lean on the side of generic to keep their young careers thriving (and yes, GaGa is young too but she just out-seated Oprah, nuff said).
I don't know if it makes since or not, all I know is that the trinity better get it together.
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I only agree with some of the Bee parts stated by the op.
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I wonder who made the trinity **** up cause it's a mess.
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Originally posted by D.M.F
The trinity ain't all of them to begin with.
The 3 official trinities:
Overall trinity - Christina, Rihanna, and Beyonce
Vocal trinity - Christina, Adele, and Kelly
Talent trinity - Christina, Adele, and Pink
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The real deal right here.
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Well Gaga is the only one who may really have trouble due to this since her album is so left field for todays pop stars.
Beyonce on the other hand most likely won't stay on this Revolution tip even though I wish she'd stay on it, but I just don't see her keeping up with it. Beyonce gets lazy after she gets alot of success under her belt, but then again one of the descriptions from those 5 songs from her album makes it seem like she's going a dark route what with words like mad scientist being thrown around.
I can't speak for Britney. I don't know what's up with that. I'm shocked to be honest cause even though she had more energy last era and was way prettier it seems like she's doing more so I don't get why she is in a rut since Til The World Ends isn't really what you'd call dark and edgy.
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Originally posted by Ace Reject
I think you need to take your idiocy someplace if you're not going to respond to the topic at hand.
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Chile.
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Member Since: 9/23/2009
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Originally posted by Haus Of Navin
Britney... its all her fault. In this day and age you have to promote if you want your song to be a smash and she just doesn't seem to get that to be honest.
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Very true. RTW rebounded strong last night from a 2 minute music video preview.....people who say promotion doesn't matter are naive.
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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Originally posted by Ace Reject
It is weird that the Big Three are having such ... difficulty. I find it a little bit unsettling, to be honest.
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Yeah, it is kinda of unexpected to be honest. I fully expect Beyonce to make a recovery before i'm forced to call the entire world racist.
Britney is actually to blame for her album failing, because she refuses to promote. (look what idol did for RTW).
And Gaga cursed herself kind of, I KNEW KNEW KNEW releasing The Fame Monster was a bad idea. That is an album that comes like 6 years into your career, it was groundbreaking. She released it as a ****ing EP and ruined her chances of surpassing it the next time round.
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Member Since: 9/23/2009
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Originally posted by iBeyoncé.
Well Gaga is the only one who may really have trouble due to this since her album is so left field for todays pop stars.
Beyonce on the other hand most likely won't stay on this Revolution tip even though I wish she'd stay on it, but I just don't see her keeping up with it. Beyonce gets lazy after she gets alot of success under her belt, but then again one of the descriptions from those 5 songs from her album makes it seem like she's going a dark route what with words like mad scientist being thrown around.
I can't speak for Britney. I don't know what's up with that. I'm shocked to be honest cause even though she had more energy last era and was way prettier it seems like she's doing more so I don't get why she is in a rut since Til The World Ends isn't really what you'd call dark and edgy.
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This era is VERY out of character for Beyonce. Openly cussing, baring her chest....it might be putting people off. Same for Lady GaGa, the general public is like 100 million Nicole's begging for 'The Fame' GaGa back.....and as for Britney, her mental stability keeps getting thrown into question. Everyone is just not themselves tonight.
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