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Discussion: Rebecca responds To Gaga
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I apolgise if this has already been posted. I'm also not going to give my opinion because I can see both sides of this story.
As you all well know, Gaga is suing Rebecca F for the return of court costs to the tune of 1.3 Million. This is Rebecca's response:
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Throughout history, individuals working in lonely places – Einstein, Edison, Chopin, Virginia Wolf – bring ideas to life. Something happens when people go off on their own to create. Something original.
Ingenuity, it’s called in U.S., happens when men and women:
· tinker in garages and laboratories
· scribble in studies or cabins
· sing in latrines and bedrooms
· plunk guitars made from scraps when the bossman ain’t lookin’
· steal moments on a church piano.
…or simply hole up in rooms working passionately to write something, to figure something out, to follow the fire, to create.
Without exception, these men and women work…alone.
Others, humans of a different quality and kind:
· prance about in whacky costumes that kill the environment
· wear lingerie to their little sister’s college graduation
· release a steady stream of songs that sound like other people’s.
This is a different class of person entirely: the performer, the entertainer, the faker, the wanna-be.
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I am of the first class of people; Lady Gaga is of the second.
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A little background.
I sued Lady Gaga in August 2011 for allegedly plagiarizing my song “Juda.”
My allegation remains that my ex-engineer/ex-bass player/ex-boyfriend Brian manipulated and used my “Juda” ProTool sessions – which he has copies of – as original source material for songs he sent Lady Gaga.
You see, unlike real songwriters, Lady Gaga is, like her getups, fake. She has other people write for her, then takes the credit. It happens a lot in Hollywood today.
So in spring of 2010 Lady Gaga sent her people to sniff around for original songs for her upcoming album Born This Way.
Remember that song? Madonna’s Express Yourself?
Anyway, my ex-engineer Brian (like most excellent musicians) was one of the first, penniless, class. Talented, but bereft of connections.
His associate DJ White Shadow, however – a wanna-be if ever there was one – had contacts, lots of them. You know, DJs, right? They play other people’s songs? They don’t write them?
And so the duo, like Kafka’s bumbling twins, sent along “their” versions of my songs, to Lady Gaga.
Brian believing likely: “It doesn’t matter anyway, she’ll never pick ‘mine’.”
DJ White Shadow believing they’re his songs now because he changed them.
Whatever.
Either way – shockingly, unexpectedly – The Queen of Gag liked them.
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A reasonable ending would have been Brian coughing up the truth.
Instead, Lady Gaga released “Judas” as her song, and when I heard it, I felt a hard cold stone in the pit of my stomach.
Why?
· our choruses are nearly identical (I repeat “Juda Juda Juda Juda Juda” over and over and she repeats “Juda, Juda-us, Juda, Juda-us, Juda, Juda-us” over and over), accounting for roughly 20% of each song
· our verses are both percussive and monotone in style (roughly 44% of each song)
· our breakdowns are nearly identical (12% of each song)
· a prominent melody line written by my violinist is the same as her “Oh oh oh oh oh I’m in love with Juda-ah, Juda-us”
· she pronounces “Judas” as “Juda-us.” <– Whaa??
Among other “coincidences.”
Weird.
But not so weird if they used my Pro Tools session “Juda” as source material to create “Judas.”
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The chances of the above similarities occurring between two works that share the same bass player, recording engineer, and “writer” (at least in the case of “Judas”) would be like getting struck by lightning five times in the same place on the same day.
But only one of us attended the circus-like depositions, so you’ll have to believe me when I say Lady Gaga/Stephanie’s recounting of “how she got the idea for Judas” would be enough for any sane individual (not being paid off) to side with me.
Or at least grant us a fair trial by jury.
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Losing is not the issue here.
It is being penalized for even filing the case that’s wrong.
Your friend, child, or sibling should not be given a bill for $1.4 million dollars for asserting his or her federally protected rights against corporate America.
Put another way, asserting your federally protected rights in the U.S. should not cost $1.4 million dollars.
But it does now.
That means today, rights really are a “privilege” reserved only for the few.
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There’s one shining star at the end of the rainbow, I guess.
If the punishment fits the “crime,” the powers that be want us Regular Humans to know that if we stand up to a corporation, they’ll bankrupt us. They’ll slam us with a $1.4 million dollar bill if we cry foul.
These people with all their money and power and glory want us to know this – bad.
So bad they put it in all their papers yesterday.
That means they’re afraid of us.
And this…is power.
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You see, unlike real songwriters, Lady Gaga is, like her getups, fake. She has other people write for her, then takes the credit. It happens a lot in Hollywood today.
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I'm done. Can she please shut the **** up?
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Originally posted by Retro
Bull.
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The link links you to her official blog. It's a real response.
I dont necessarily agree with everything she says but it's legit from her.
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Oops. If this is real, I'm done with ha.
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Originally posted by Inception
Oops. If this is real, I'm done with ha.
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It's a real response from Rebecca F. Obviously none of us know what transpired between the two.
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You know, she makes a good case, still the songs dont seem to sound as alike as she states.
There's two sides to every story, and this side is interesting.
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Can't even look into the woman's actual name.
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Losing is not the issue here.
It is being penalized for even filing the case that’s wrong.
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Filed a ******** case that cost someone else time and money. Completely fair.
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· she pronounces “Judas” as “Juda-us.” <– Whaa??
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Those are called syllables, honey, people use them to fit melodies.
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You know, DJs, right? They play other people’s songs? They don’t write them?
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Never! It would be unthinkable!
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You see, unlike real songwriters, Lady Gaga is, like her getups, fake. She has other people write for her, then takes the credit. It happens a lot in Hollywood today.
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You had your chance to prove that, and you failed. It doesn't make sense anyway.
Get out, lady.
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Rebecca just needs to know that her first class ass is going to have to pay that 1.3 million for her fatal error in REAL dollars to the "second class" Lady Gaga.
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Gurl, don't try to sue an artist under premises you very well know are fake/coincidental/that the artist had no awareness of, and you won't have to foot the bill for the other party's legal expenses. It's that simple. 
"Assert his or her federally protected rights against corporate America", my ass. 
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Originally posted by Retro
Can't even look into the woman's actual name.
Filed a ******** case that cost someone else time and money. Completely fair.
Those are called syllables, honey, people use them to fit melodies.
Never! It would be unthinkable!
You had your chance to prove that, and you failed. It doesn't make sense anyway.
Get out, lady.
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I agree with all of that.
It's the part I bolded of Rebecca's statement, I agree with.
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********.
The authority (Judge) found no evidence of plagiarism of any sorts & so Gaga won.
Now Gaga has all the right to turn around and counter sue her for defamation. It is what it is.
This chick needs to just suck it up. This should be a lesson for all those people out there who wana make a quick buck off of celebrities by filing these baseless suits.
GOOD BYE!
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omg 
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Originally posted by Thor
********.
The authority (Judge) found no evidence of plagiarism of any sorts & so Gaga won.
Now Gaga has all the right to turn around and counter sue her for defamation. It is what it is.
This chick needs to just suck it up. This should be a lesson for all those people out there who wana make a quick buck off of celebrities by filing these baseless suits.
GOOD BYE!
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She's not suing for defamation.
She's not disputing the fact she lost.
I agree that she needs to suck it up but your post didn't really address anything she said. Did you read her statement?
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Originally posted by Inception
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Rebecca F. had a fair chance to prove her case in the court of law, failed, and is now bitter and upset that she has to pay the other party for legal expenses spent defending against her false accusations.
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Originally posted by TheGreatestThing
Rebecca F. had a fair chance to prove her case in the court of law, failed, and is now bitter and upset that she has to pay the other party for legal expenses spent defending against her false accusations. |
Do you actually know what happened sis? Please spill the tea.
That's what I thought.
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