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Discussion: The Telegraph: Pop's 20 greatest female artists
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The Telegraph: Pop's 20 greatest female artists
20. The Spice Girls
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For one innocent moment in the 90s, Scary, Sporty, Baby, Ginger & Posh became the archetypes of a new kind of girl power, combining the cartoonish sexuality of teen pop culture with a post-feminist ladette sense of the supremacy of sisterhood. Then we got to know them better, and the bubble burst.
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19. Chrissie Hynde
18. Joni Mitchell
17. Dolly Parton
16. Grace Jones
15. Whitney Houston
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Tragic Whitney concluded her reverse showbiz fairytale with a desperate final act. Our feelings for her have been complicated by the public squandering of her talent, the terrible tension between girl-next-door charm and drug fuelled lifestyle. But as a gospel soul singing superstar with a dazzling smile and pyrotechnical voice, in her pomp she was a perfect pop princess.
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14. Siouxsie Sioux
13. Dusty Springfield
12. Lady Gaga
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Stephanie Germanotta, has the myth-making, self-marketing nous of Madonna, the musical chops of Elton John and the counter-culture boldness of David Bowie. Lady Gaga could be considered the ultimate pop icon, a 21st century Ms Elvis.
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11. Janis Joplin
10. Patti Smith
9. Adele
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Britain’s Adele Adkins, our back-to-basics soul chanteuse, exposes the shallowness of multi-media digital pop with the pure magic of a big voice and perfectly crafted, highly emotional songs.
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8. Beyoncé
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The sassiest of the new wave of urban pop divas, Beyoncé conveys a kind of uber-femininity: sexy, smart, tough, fearless and utterly comfortable in her skin. Mixing Motown soul inflections with gospel powered melismas, hip hop attitude with the hard-grafting instincts of a showbiz trouper, she has a range of skills that leave most pop performers in the shade. Her marriage to rap godfather Jay-Z confirms Beyoncé’s regal status in 21st the century pop court.
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7. Amy Winehouse
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If Amy Winehouse has the edge over Adele, it is through the terrible myth stirred up by her self-immolation. More than any other contemporary star, the stick thin, tattoo and beehive retro soul singer-songwriter put women with authentic talent right at the centre of modern pop culture. She sang as if it was a matter of life and death. Tragically, it turned out it was.
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6. Aretha Franklin
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The First Lady of Soul and arguably the greatest singer of the pop era, Aretha has power, range and technique allied with perfect instincts. Not a woman to overdo things, every Aretha vocal sounds just right, whether she’s ripping it up like a Civil Rights warrior on Respect or laying out emotional home truths on Natural Woman. R.E.S.P.E.C.T. is how you spell it.
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5. The ABBA girls
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Agnetha and Anna-Frid were the ice-cool front guard of pop’s most perfect hit machine. No matter how ridiculous the costumes, and whatever the emotional politics behind the scenes, the ABBA girls stood shoulder to shoulder and voice to voice in a perfect union of deadpan musical sisterhood that has made them the defining female pop stars for generation after generation.
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4. Debbie Harry
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Rock’s greatest pin-up, the divine Ms Harry combined innate sexiness with punk attitude, making her a star for all genders, as much a feminist role model as pop’s ultimate sex object. Her low, liquid vocal in Blondie’s sleek, new wave setting framed a whole new space for girls in the boys musical zone.
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3. Kate Bush
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Her florid, elaborate, mysterious recordings may be the most utterly female pop music ever made, elaborate bulletins from across the gender divide. A true one-off, Kate Bush opens windows to her inner world, dropping a needle in the groove of her psyche. This is the musical motherload.
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2. Tina Turner
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Like a force of nature, Tina Turner overwhelms and overcomes, turning out raw, powerhouse vocals that knock down all obstacles and stand up for that kind of essential spirit that made rock and soul the prime music of our times. She has a kind of primal sexual essence and indomitable female spirit that helped her thrive for decades as a top line female star in a man’s world. From Beyonce to Rihanna, Amy to Florence, today’s hard-ass female elite owe Tina more than they probably know.
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1. Madonna
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Love her or loathe her, it would be hard to deny Madonna’s pole position as the greatest female pop star of our times. Her world-beating, shape-shifting, trend-setting and at times ground breaking pop music has covered the gamut of female archetypes: virgin, *****, wife, mother, witch, diva, saint, sinner and 50-year-old cheerleader, and put it all to dance beats and catchy hooks. She might not be the greatest singer, she may not be the finest songwriter, she may favour surface over depth and make music that barely ripples the soul, but Madonna’s pop genius has carried her on a three decade winning streak that no other star, male or female, can match.
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No Britney, no Rihanna, no Christina Aguilera, no Janet Jackson, etc. Do you agree with this list ?
I personally think half of the list aren't even proper POP female artists. What do YOU think? Discuss.
Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/art...emale-artists/
EDIT: This thread was already posted in 2013 http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=340194. The list has been updated in 2015 (with Lady Gaga being now outside the top 10), which is why I made this thread.
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Gaga, Bey 
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BYE @ Amy. I don't want to be mean but if she was still alive everyone would call her a drunk mess and hate on her. Her legacy is so inflated after death.
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Originally posted by YouBetterPopBitch
20. The Spice Girls
19. Chrissie Hynde
18. Joni Mitchell
17. Dolly Parton
16. Grace Jones
15. Whitney Houston
14. Siouxsie Sioux
13. Dusty Springfield
12. Lady Gaga
11. Janis Joplin
10. Patti Smith
9. Adele
8. Beyoncé
7. Amy Winehouse
6. Aretha Franklin
5. The ABBA girls
4. Debbie Harry
3. Kate Bush
2. Tina Turner
1. Madonna
No Britney, no Rihanna, no Christina Aguilera, no Janet Jackson, etc. Do you agree with this list ?
I personally think half of the list aren't even proper POP female artists. What do YOU think? Discuss.
Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/music/art...emale-artists/ |
Where's Sam Smith?
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Also, Beyonce over Mariah and Janet...
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A mess 
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Amy?  Really? Seems like death makes everyone overrated! 
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BYE @ Amy. I don't want to be mean but if she was still alive everyone would call her a drunk mess and hate on her. Her legacy is so inflated after death.
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I agree.
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No Britney  . No Janet . Flop list.
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Where's Sam Smith?
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At number 9, basically.
And OP, all of these women are pop. ATRL gays have a very narrow minded view of what pop music actually is.  You guys seem to think you can only be classified as pop unless you make, generic, Max Martin-esque music.
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Accurate list
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Lady Gaga at #12
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Wait, Mariah is missing 
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Madonna and Kate
The rest of the list is inaccurate though
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Also, Adele shouldn't be there.
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where are carly rae jepsen and taylor swift
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Also, Adele shouldn't be there.
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Yes she should. She had the biggest selling album of the 21st Century. She has as much right to be there as anyone.
Keep seething.
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Yes she should. She had the biggest selling album of the 21st Century. She has as much right to be there as anyone.
Keep seething.
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Where is the impact that Britney, Mariah and Janet still have though?
And just because I don't agree doesn't mean i'm "seething" you try hard. Not every critique is a drag. Perhaps you need a few minutes away from this site.
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Beyonce and Adele
Love how Beyonce is not even no where near finished yet!
Not Amy Winehouse at number 7 though
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