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News: Transgender Cited for Using Female Restroom in Idaho...
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Transgender Cited for Using Female Restroom in Idaho...
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An Idaho transgender woman was cited for trespassing last week for using the women's bathroom in a grocery store.
Ally Robledo, 25, was cited April 8 after leaving Rosauer's grocery store in Lewiston, according to CBS local affiliate KLEW TV.
"A male subject ... was using the female restroom, and that made some women customers uncomfortable because of the appearance that a male was using their restroom," Lewiston Police Captain Roger Lanier said, according to KLEW.
Robledo told the station that she has already undergone one gender re-assignment surgery. In the past, Robledo said using male restrooms led to feelings of embarrassment and harassment, and that she sometimes she even feared for her safety.
"I'm a female trapped in a man's body," Robledo said, according to Reuters. "It's natural for me to go to the ladies' room. Getting the no trespassing order for a public restroom was really painful."
Lanier stressed that "store employees didn't want any further problems" and have the right under Idaho state law to refuse service. Customers had complained because someone was urinating standing up, according to Reuters.
ThinkProgress notes that Idaho is one of 37 states that do not offer nondiscrimination protections for transgender Americans.
According to the National Center for Lesbian Rights, 13 states have anti-discrimination statutes that protect transgender people from "discrimination in public accommodations." There is no such federal law, according to the Associated Press.
Nationally, the issue of transgender rights and discrimination has been in the news recently, due to an attempt by an Arizona state politician to police the way transgender people use public bathrooms and locker rooms. In February, Rep. John Kavanagh (R) proposed an amendment that would prohibit a person from entering a “public restroom, bathroom, shower, bath, dressing room, or locker room” with a biological identity not matching the facility's official gender association.
Kavanaugh's comments dovetail with those of Michigan state Rep. Tom McMillin (R), who last week said a bill offering protections to transgender Michigan residents "violates the privacy rights of women and children."
“Why the city would want to force places like schools, businesses and fitness centers to allow men to use a women’s restroom or locker room – and allow boys to access girl’s restrooms and locker rooms in schools, is beyond me," McMillin said in a statement, according to Michigan local news blog MLive.com.
"At the very least, the council should have also included a requirement for warning signs on women’s and girl’s public restroom and locker room doors saying that women and girls may be confronted there by men who think they are women," he added.
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Well, I'm with the girls because this could lead to voyeurs passing as trannies an easier access to the female restroom.
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Why were the female customers uncomfortable? She looks female to me?
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Let her use whatever bathroom she wants to.. 
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Its sad, they can't live their own life the way they choose to because of people like this that don't understand out of ignorance and intolerance.
Of course she has every right to fear using the male restroom out of harassment, specially with all these stories of people killing and attacking people of the LGBT community.
Personally, why should other women be concerned of who is visiting their restroom when her intentions were clearly just to do her business and not to loiter around trying to harass anyone else.
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If she has already undergone sex reassignment surgery then what is there to worry about? Should she say she's a man now even though she does not have a penis? What sense does that make?
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Originally posted by Kworb
Why were the female customers uncomfortable? She looks female to me?
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I'm not bashing, but honestly she doesn't though. The facial structure and the drawn on eyebrows give it away.
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Originally posted by Kworb
Why were the female customers uncomfortable? She looks female to me?
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And she's undergone the sexual reassignment surgery meaning she now sexually identifies as female, so what is the issue?
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Originally posted by Kworb
Why were the female customers uncomfortable? She looks female to me?
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Sis, she still looks like a tranny to me. 
She's not really up there with the thai ladyboys. That botched eyebrow instantly gives it away plus this is actually her.
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Originally posted by brIt-()nstar
Well, I'm with the girls because this could lead to voyeurs passing as trannies an easier access to the female restroom.
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Seriously? Just because some crazy person might be creepy someday, that means all transgendered people have to use a washroom opposite to their gender?
And if there was a female voyeur would you seriously be like " OMG someone is looking under my stall? Oh, it's just a woman. That's fine. Hey girl how are you?" Men aren't the only voyeurs in the world.
And also, this state rep McMillan person not understanding what transgendered people are about is just awful. It's not letting men in the women's washroom it's letting women in the women's washroom. He's doing the opposite by forcing a transgendered woman to use a male washroom where they will stick out even more.
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Originally posted by Panthe☈a
I'm not bashing, but honestly she doesn't though. The facial structure and the drawn on eyebrows give it away.
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But that's still no reason for multiple people to go and complain about it to a manager. What was she doing in there? 
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Originally posted by brIt-()nstar
Sis, she still looks like a tranny to me.
She's not really up there with the thai ladyboys. That botched eyebrow instantly gives it away plus this is actually her.
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There are plenty of women with poor makeup choices too.
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Originally posted by brIt-()nstar
Sis, she still looks like a tranny to me.
She's not really up there with the thai ladyboys. That botched eyebrow instantly gives it away plus this is actually her.
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It shouldn't matter what she looks like. Even if she looks a hot ass mess, she's still physically female. This is discrimination, plain and simple.
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Honestly, who cares about the other customers? She is still a female. She should be allowed to use the women's room. Where the **** is she supposed to use the restroom if she can't use the men's room (obviously) and now can't use the women's room? So ****ing stupid.
If one of my customers told me that they felt uncomfortable about a transgender using the same restroom, I would tell them to shut the **** up.
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Y'all can't be surprised because look where it happened - Idaho. I'm sure in NY, CA, or maybe even TX most people wouldn't care.
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What does her appearance have to do with it, I have seen some toe-up girls go into the women's restroom and some that I've mistaken for men going in and out.
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Originally posted by DripDrip
What does her appearance have to do with it, I have seen some toe-up girls go into the women's restroom and some that I've mistaken for men going in and out.
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Exactly. It's a non-issue.
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Originally posted by swissman
Seriously? Just because some crazy person might be creepy someday, that means all transgendered people have to use a washroom opposite to their gender?
And if there was a female voyeur would you seriously be like "OMG someone is looking under my stall? Oh, it's just a woman. That's fine. Hey girl how are you?" Men aren't the only voyeurs in the world.
And also, this state rep McMillan person not understanding what transgendered people are about is just awful. It's not letting men in the women's washroom it's letting women in the women's washroom. He's doing the opposite by forcing a transgendered woman to use a male washroom where they will stick out even more.
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Hey! Don't put words into my mouth. I never said there were no female voyeurs. I'm just saying they'll get easier access because men are the most likely sexual offenders, the higher chances for a voyeur act to happen. e.g.: installing a hidden camera etc.
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What makes a heterosexual trans female more uncomfortable than a lesbian though?
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