I'm not a vegan, i eat meat and don't care if people wear fur, i personally see no problem with either. I just feel people who eat meat can't criticise people who wear fur. And to start off, i want to say any fur made from an animal being skinned alive, or inflicted with any other sort of cruelty is obviously disgusting and so it the consumption of any products made from such processes. But for the sake of this argument, assume that the fur im talking about is ethically, cruelty free sourced.
One of the main complaints is that the leather industry for example uses all of the animal and fur industry doesn't, but that's not the case (from wiki): "The meat from most fur-bearers is not usually eaten by humans, therefore the carcasses will go on to become various products such as pet food, animal feed, organic compost, fertilizer, paint, and even tires. Carcasses sometimes go to animal sanctuaries, zoos, and aquariums to feed animals, and some end up as crab bait. Mink feces are used as organic crop fertiliser, and mink fat is turned into oil to manufacture soap, face oils, cosmetics, and leather preservatives."
Secondly, people obviously have a problem with its use, purely a luxury, an accessory. I don't argue with this, but vegans and vegitarians are perfectly healthy, so meat is not a luxury however it's certainly not a necessity. So what i don't understand is how a meat eater can criticise someone for wearing fur, when its not like if the animals were intelligent enough, they'd be fine with being eaten but have a problem with being killed for fur. They'd have a problem with both. They'd not want to die PERIOD. E.g Imagine someone murders you, would you be any more satisfied/content knowing they decided to eat you after? No, so why does this logic apply to animals? So if were truly thinking about the animals, why is the taste of meat enough of a justification to kill them? Eating meat is not a necessity for us to stay alive, so it's not like our need could overrule their will. So if we are allowing one non-necessity why not another?
In addition, if we're talking about the actual scale and size, everyday we eat meat, in our lifetime thousands on animals would have died in order to comply with our diets. However animals dying for fur would be much much less.
To summarise the point im making: How can someone who eats meat on daily basis and results in the more deaths of animals criticise someone who wears fur, as if the animal would be any happier it was killed to be eaten (when it's not a necessary part of our diet) vs worn? IMO, either go full out vegan, or you can't criticise the idea of wearing fur.
I appreciate that it's a step in the right direction - a meat eater who one day criticises fur is more likely to make the connection and go vegan, which is fantastic!
But yeah - if they were a highly-publicised anti-fur activist or a long-time vet or what have you, I'd expect them to be vegan.
Well that's another ethical Q, this is just me pointing out the contradiction in meat eaters criticising people wearing fur. But I think it's fine as long as they're raised without cruelty.
Yes What kind of logic is it to draw a line there? It's really weird how some people from both sides try to make the issue one where there's only two absolute sides as opposed to there being a spectrum over the issue.
I'm moving towards being a Vegetarian and don't understand people who criticise meat-eaters who don't agree with fur. At least they are trying to minimise the harm done to animals
either go full out vegan, or you can't criticise the idea of wearing fur.
Why would you have to go full vegan if you disagree with some aspects of animal treatment? Eating meat for sustenance is a norm for many, whereas wearing fur is just seen as an unneeded luxury. Animals used for meat are often mass produced anyway, I don't think it's the same case for fur considering not everyone wants to wear fur nor are there people willing to pay the price for it.
Why would you have to go full vegan if you disagree with some aspects of animal treatment? Eating meat for sustenance is a norm for many, whereas wearing fur is just seen as an unneeded luxury. Animals used for meat are often mass produced anyway, I don't think it's the same case for fur considering not everyone wants to wear fur nor are there people willing to pay the price for it.
And that's my exact point. How is that a unaccptable justification for "murder"? And for the last part if anything that's worse and whats lead to the disgusting factory farming.