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ATRL: Nicole's Farewell Letter?
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Nicole's Farewell Letter?
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
So here comes the page-long essay, moments after I decried someone for posting page-long essays. You probably don't give a ****, but I needed to say it and I wanted to say it in this thread. This is my Celestial moment, minus the self-contradicting anger.
The problem with BTW stems from Gaga herself. For better or worse, Gaga is the only major popstar whose music actually comes from her and reflects who she is. Since the release of the BTW single, people have said I'm being too hard on her, or that I'm unnecessarily negative. But based on everything Gaga was saying and doing since early 2010 ( "Oh Little Monsters, it's ok that you're gay b/c God made you this way and I too was bullied but look at me now!!!!"), I knew she was gearing up to jump the shark. I didn't like who she'd become, and I sensed that her music would suffer directly as a result of that. I hoped I would end up being wrong, so I stuck around for a whole year, but I should have known better.
To be more specific, this problem with Gaga (and with BTW since, as I said, she and her music are one and the same) and the reason I can't stan for her anymore, is that the album isn't really pop. It acts like it's above pop. It's not catchy, or fun, or have huge killer hooks that make the whole world want to just dance. This is a problem for me because the first thing Gaga epicly declared when she burst onto the music scene was "POP MUSIC WILL NEVER BE LOW BROW." Did "never" mean less than 3 years? What happened to that girl? What happened to her sense of fun? Why, after such a bold declaration, is she trying to move away from pop instead of raising the bar within the pop genre? I won't even get into her now-off putting gimmicks. I said page-long essay, not book.
Gaga can act like she's totally unpredictable all she wants, but she's become anything but. I told Perez last fall that based simply on her interviews and videos, BTW was gearing up to be a self-indulgent, fun-free, preachy, bloated mess. At the time he didn't respond, but the other day he told me that he met up with her, remembered my comment, and told her that people miss her former sense of fun, charm and playfulness. He wanted to put it into her consciousness and make sure she's at least aware. So as a fan I've done my part. But I can't act like some other fanbases, and keep clinging to her simply because I'm attached to her. I can't act like those who insist "Godney" is still exciting, when she now offers nothing more than some Ke$ha-lite beats expertly engineered by her fancy team. Or that "Beysus" has an epic new single sooo much better than the demo, when it's actually another sampled mess and the most horrendous aural assault since I can't remember when. Try as I may, I can't be passionate about Lady Gaga anymore and I have to be honest instead of pretending - I was born this way after all and Gaga would want me to be true to myself and honor my e-vomit . Deep down though, I'll always have a spot for her and root for her, since I can't totally erase the last 3 years from consciousness and act like she didn't have a huge effect on me.
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She will be missed.
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Member Since: 2/6/2010
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
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She's right.
And I even commend her for still finding a way to knock Britney down. Girl's got an obsessive talent.
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Member Since: 10/18/2010
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She makes good points and she has rights to her own opinion.
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Member Since: 2/16/2010
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I disagree completely but Nicole is in-your-face, unapologetic & I commend her for speaking her mind.
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Member Since: 11/24/2006
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Originally posted by MrDeeds
Im very glad to see this.
Cant wait for Nicole's, another Gaga stan i can consider too smart for all this love yourself **** / Gaga crap.
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Member Since: 4/4/2011
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Originally posted by MusicTalker
I disagree completely but Nicole is in-your-face, unapologetic & I commend her for speaking her mind.
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The only thing I agree with is what she said about Britney/Beyonce.
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Member Since: 11/10/2009
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First Celstial, now Nicole.
Rainbows, Biblio, Hustle, and Jay - You're never allowed to leave.
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Member Since: 11/7/2010
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I disagree, with what she said, but you will be missed~
Does she even say she's leaving ? This can just mean she's done being a Gaga fan
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Seeing Nicole's post reminded me.. I'm really interested in what Celestial thinks of Born This Way.
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Member Since: 11/5/2009
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DAMN. Yeah, I only like a few tracks on the album and would rank it below FAME MONSTER. We miss GAGA. With the standard that people were puttting her on, this album should have been better. But it's not.
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Originally posted by MrDeeds
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Are you calling us dumb?
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I agree,
The Fame era ******* on TFM and BTW
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Member Since: 5/14/2009
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
the album isn't really pop. It acts like it's above pop. It's not catchy, or fun, or have huge killer hooks that make the whole world want to just dance. This is a problem for me because the first thing Gaga epicly declared when she burst onto the music scene was "POP MUSIC WILL NEVER BE LOW BROW." Did "never" mean less than 3 years? What happened to that girl? What happened to her sense of fun? Why, after such a bold declaration, is she trying to move away from pop instead of raising the bar within the pop genre? I won't even get into her now-off putting gimmicks.
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This.
I just finished listening to tha album a few hours ago with my friend. He doesn't care for GaGa much and only listens to her when im playing it around him,and he himself admitted that tha **** i played from TF and TFM was WAY better and ******* on BTW,along with being WAY more catchier. I,myself,feel tha same way. It's so crazy cuz when i first heard Judas back at tha Monster Ball it sounded so ****ing epic,im almost over it now and i haven't even *****d it out as much as i thought i would when i first heard it. I can't believe i had tha nerve to say it ******* on BR,but of course i was in tha spur of tha moment so i was just talking ****. When tha album was done i was just thinking to myself...that's all? I love GaGa,but im so disappointed in this album,nonetheless i want her to gain success from tha album and she will do that for a fact. But overall,in my book,Gaga,just..no. There's probably like 3 or 4 songs that i like and out of 14/18 tracks,that's an F. I was hoping this would be my album of tha summer that i ***** out when i go out with friends and whatnot,but it looks like it won't be
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Originally posted by BTrisc0392
Rainbows, Biblio, Hustle, and Jay - You're never allowed to leave.
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It's coming, but i don't think he'll write an attention whoring essay, he is classy
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I COMPLETELY agree. I haven't really 'liked' Gaga like a stan should since the ending of The Fame era.
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Originally posted by Hello
Seeing Nicole's post reminded me.. I'm really interested in what Celestial thinks of Born This Way.
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I really want to know as well, I was thinking about it today. I think she will either love it a lot or hate it quite a lot.
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Member Since: 11/10/2009
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Originally posted by BTrisc0392
First Celstial, now Nicole.
Rainbows, Biblio, Hustle, and Jay - You're never allowed to leave.
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Monstah too.
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