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Discussion: The end of illegal file-sharing?
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The end of illegal file-sharing?
Killing legislation that would enable the government to shut down Web sites accused of piracy was a top priority for many technology trade groups today.
Last week, a Senate committee stunned the tech sector by announcing it would try to fast-track a bill designed to grant the U.S. Department of Justice wide authority to combat illegal file sharing and counterfeiting.
The bill, which was introduced in the Senate Judiciary Committee and backed by the committee's chairman, Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), could go to a vote in the Senate as early as tomorrow.
Critics say the proposed legislation, known as the Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act, is nothing more than censorship and would heap the copyright-protection problems on companies that shouldn't bear the burden.
"Legislation like this goes through, we start to break the Internet," said Ed Black, CEO of the Computer and Communications Industry Association (CCIA). "Nobody is arguing that copyright infringement doesn't exist. But Lady Gaga isn't going to go broke tomorrow. We should be trying to solve the copyright issue in as an unobtrusive and thoughtful way as possible and not creating anti-First Amendment laws."
Read more: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-20...#ixzz116OyO4Sa
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Member Since: 4/21/2010
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Really? I think that's going to be hard because there are tones of ways to share "illegal" stuffs on the internet!
I wish them luck, i guess
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if they do, thats a shame :-/ its the only way i get rare music from all over the country.
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Member Since: 9/13/2009
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I don't mind. albums need to achieve diamond again. All these gold **** achievement is so tired.
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Member Since: 5/25/2009
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Well can they wait till I get all my music back I had to reform mat my lappy
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Originally posted by HarrySapphire
I don't mind. albums need to achieve diamond again. All these gold **** achievement is so tired.
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Whether or not this bill is passed, you're gonna be waiting a very long time for a recently-released album to ship ten million copies, let alone five million.
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Member Since: 9/13/2009
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Originally posted by Johnald.
Whether or not this bill is passed, you're gonna be waiting a very long time for a recently-released album to ship ten million copies, let alone five million.
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It seems like gold is really good nowadays. It's sad.
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Member Since: 3/30/2009
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I doubt they'll ever be able to stop it. They could try, but someone will find a way to do it.
The only possible way of ending it would be shutting down the internet. :scary:
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Gold is so the new double platinum
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Member Since: 9/24/2008
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They can't clamp down on file-sharing because it's international. If they close US based sites then people will get their music elsewhere without paying for it. It's way too late to expect people to change their ways, they're not going to go out and buy albums again. Singles/EPs are the future.
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You know that most famous of sharing sites, The Pirate Bay? Yeah, last time I checked, they were not based in the US. They were only stopped by their own government. The US couldn't do a damn thing about it. And they won't be able to do a damn thing about the sites in countries outside of the US. Only THEIR governments can take them down.
In short, this move is absolutely pointless unless they get other countries on board, as well. And only then.
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Member Since: 2/23/2010
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I won't start buying albums, concerts are already pretty expensive.
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Member Since: 7/12/2009
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In Holland it's legal anyways. Damn, we rockkk.
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Member Since: 10/3/2009
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Originally posted by amandatheafter
I won't start buying albums, concerts are already pretty expensive.
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That's, ironically, because of the piracy . They earn less by their music , so now they have to make concerts or tours more than ever to earn money. Anyway, I don't enjoy concerts too much.
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Originally posted by Celestial
They can't clamp down on file-sharing because it's international. If they close US based sites then people will get their music elsewhere without paying for it. It's way too late to expect people to change their ways, they're not going to go out and buy albums again. Singles/EPs are the future.
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I agree. The government here doesn't care too much about internet downloads. So we can upload and donwload any files without going to jail.
About rules in general. I think technology is overpassing laws. Nowadays there is an infinite freedom to upload and send any kind of news as we want. And minutes later everybody knows it. The government can't handle this anymore beacause this isn't just to send someone to jail . Even though they can do that. The information still there and more people will be able to know about it.
So I think this problem isn't about music only. News about corruption , marriages of famous couples , celebrities pictures, etc. What about the news that have been sent, they can't go backward the time.
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Uhh....they're like ten years too late on this. They waiting too long, and now people will be way too hard to change. I remember back when pirating first took off, and people would be a little scared to download something. Now I see people logging on to 4shared or Mediafire whenever they want, to grab some songs. People won't take the new rules at all.
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I have part of an interview with Disturbed's lead singer saved onto my ATRL Notepad (does anybody else use that thing?) He knows exactly what needs to be done, unlike the RIAA and out-of-touch dinosaurs like Gene Simmons and Bono.
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Away-Team.com: In talking about music, and your albums in particular, you've always been a supporter of Internet file sharing and music downloading. (Dave nods his head in approval) Why have you openly opposed the RIAA's (Recording Industry Association Of America) moves to try and ban people from sharing music on the internet and the act of people pirating downloads from the Internet? Also, how do you explain why DISTURBED has had their last three albums hit number one in the week it was released and all of them go multi-platinum, even though you support people downloading your music, whether it's for free or as a paid purchase?
Draiman: Thank God, right? (laughs) You are really an idiot if you bite the hand that feeds you, and that's what they're doing by not letting the music get into the hands of the people who want it in the quickest and most efficient way possible. These are the people you sell ANYTHING to as a band; whether it be T-shirts, tickets, music or ANYTHING! These are the people who believe in you, took stock in you and spend their lives supporting you. I genuinely feel it's been the fault of the industry that it is collapsing under the weight of the greed and preponderance to hold onto a model which has not worked properly in some time. The recording industry should have been on the forefront of technology, not trying to catch up ten years later. They should have known that it is just a matter of time. The cassette killed the record, the CD killed the cassette, and now, the MP3 is killing the CD! It's logic. If [the RIAA] had been forward-thinking enough and been pushing THEIR version of the MP3 early on, they would have negotiated deals with the ISP's individually, and could have treated it…I'll give you an example; There are 70-million people who subscribe to ISPs to get their Internet services. You know, they have to go to a server to get on the Internet…There's a company called Big Champagne that has developed a software that measures Internet downloads. That's how we know how many download sales are occurring on our music. So, if you knew that this company also offered, for only $5.00 per month, unlimited internet file sharing…much like when you order the NFL Sunday Ticket, you pay one fee and get all the games and you can do what you want with them…you'd surely consider this over the alternatives. So, you've got this nominal fee…$5.00 per month…but you take that $5.00 a month times the 70-million people who subscribe and that's a lot of revenue. You can then use the software that Big Champagne has developed to disperse those royalties the same way that publishing is dispersed for the number of downloads.”
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Member Since: 7/23/2010
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I get my music from chinese websites. Can they block them also?
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Originally posted by Johnald.
I have part of an interview with Disturbed's lead singer saved onto my ATRL Notepad (does anybody else use that thing?) He knows exactly what needs to be done, unlike the RIAA and out-of-touch dinosaurs like Gene Simmons and Bono.
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This is a good point.
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Member Since: 11/7/2009
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Chinese and other Asian-countries based servers will rule the internet soon
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Member Since: 11/13/2008
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Crazy old men... sitting up in their high offices pushing pencils and signing their names on paper thinking it's going to do something
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