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News: 2nd man on PrEP contracts HIV
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2nd man on PrEP contracts HIV
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A second man taking the daily HIV-prevention pill Truvada has been infected by a rare drug-resistant strain of the virus.
The results were presented by Cleveland Clinic HIV specialist Howard Grossman, who unveiled the finding at the 2016 HIV Research for Prevention conference in Chicago on Tuesday.
The patient, who is not releasing his name or age to protect his privacy, is a gay man who had been taking the drug daily since January 2016. Hair and blood tests confirmed that he had the appropriate blood levels of the pill’s two drugs — tenofovir and emtricitabine — to offer the nearly 99% protection it offers from the virus when taken daily.
The patient’s long-term partner is HIV-positive but on treatment, with an undetectable viral load in his body. On two occasions and with two separate people, however, the couple had condomless sex with a third person.
Grossman found that the patient’s strain of HIV was resistant to both of the drugs in Truvada, as well as all of the other drugs in its class, which work by blocking one of the enzymes needed by the virus to reproduce. The new strain did not match his partner’s, meaning that the multi-drug-resistant virus must have been transmitted during one of the two sexual encounters.
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https://www.buzzfeed.com/azeenghoray...bt#.ypLGXjmebK
Wrap it UP folks
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*sigh, raw sex isn't worth your health. I just don't get it . But I guess now they can have all the raw sex they want considering ....
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Member Since: 9/9/2012
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How many times and with how many people did these men have unprotected sex with though?
If they were having sex hundreds of times with dozens of people on PrEP just because they expected to be invincible then it's somewhat understandable it ended up failing that 0.01% of the time.
If they were having sex only few times, and with barely any people & it failed then that is indeed a bad look for PrEP though.
Protected sex ofcourse though, remains the best option.
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Really not smart of them to have condomless sex with two other people. Prep is not a replacement for condoms
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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just wrap it up for ****s sake
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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lets not lose our minds now
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Drug resistance testing of the man’s virus found that it had multiple resistance mutations, including those that confer resistance to each of the two drugs in Truvada, tenofovir and emtricitabine. The transmission of such multidrug-resistant strains of the virus are rare, regardless of whether someone is taking Truvada, suggesting that such cases of PrEP failure will remain quite uncommon. In other words, there is very good reason to believe that researchers were correct when they estimated that PrEP is more than 99 percent effective at preventing HIV when taken daily.
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Grossman stresses to POZ "important points," including that "PrEP works and is the most successful intervention we have had; failures have been vanishingly rare, and that's not changing
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it was never advertised to be 100% effective. just go raw with other guys on prep who SHOW YOU their recently filled prescription bottle, and or guys who are undetectable. don't take raw loads from randoms who claim to be negative but are really infected, not being treated, and have viral loads in the hundreds of thousands if not millions. even on prep i personally still make guys pull out and nut in my mouth instead, it's much safer
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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I'm a little confused, whats the point of PreP exactly?
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Member Since: 4/6/2014
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Prep is like the flu shot. Yeah, it'll protect against the most common strains but you could still get the flu*
People need to learn that HIV isn't ONE virus. There are many different strains and some strains are more aggressive than others. You're also able to be infected with more than one strain.
*the flu shot protects against what the pharmaceutical industry thinks will be the most common strains for the season. It's different every year and is really just a wild hunch
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Member Since: 11/11/2010
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Meh. I personally feel you shouldn't have condomless sex with someone unless you're in a serious, committed relationship and have been recently tested and whatnot.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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People need to combine PrEP and condoms to protect themselves, I hope this convinces more people to use condoms especially because PrEP doesn't protect against all the many other STIs.
I'm worried about the existence of drug-resistant strains of HIV, this is so dangerous
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Originally posted by iHype.
How many times and with how many people did these men have unprotected sex with though?
If they were having sex hundreds of times with dozens of people on PrEP just because they expected to be invincible then it's somewhat understandable it ended up failing that 0.01% of the time.
If they were having sex only few times, and with barely any people & it failed then that is indeed a bad look for PrEP though.
Protected sex ofcourse though, remains the best option.
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The article says twice with two different third parties (two threesomes without condoms with a different person each time).
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Member Since: 5/14/2009
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Crazy part about it is out here in California alot of guys are lying claiming that they're on PrEp when they aren't and HIV Positive guys aren't telling people that they're positive just because they're undetectable. It's getting crazy out here. At this point, it's time to use PrEp and DOUBLE wrap it up. These guys are doing anything for their own liddo selfish needs
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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Some girls think they can take that pill and go sleep with everyone RAW and unhinged. We should all know that HIV is incredibly unpredictable, so why people didn't think that HIV would mutate itself to be Resistant against PreP remains crazy to me. People need to keep themselves safe with a condom.
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This is why i'm celibate
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Originally posted by Ina Garten
lets not lose our minds now
it was never advertised to be 100% effective. just go raw with other guys on prep who SHOW YOU their recently filled prescription bottle, and or guys who are undetectable. don't take raw loads from randoms who claim to be negative but are really infected, not being treated, and have viral loads in the hundreds of thousands if not millions. even on prep i personally still make guys pull out and nut in my mouth instead, it's much safer
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Member Since: 5/10/2012
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Originally posted by Ina Garten
lets not lose our minds now
it was never advertised to be 100% effective. just go raw with other guys on prep who SHOW YOU their recently filled prescription bottle, and or guys who are undetectable. don't take raw loads from randoms who claim to be negative but are really infected, not being treated, and have viral loads in the hundreds of thousands if not millions. even on prep i personally still make guys pull out and nut in my mouth instead, it's much safer
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Let them know
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Originally posted by EJQL8
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Mess, I skimmed & didn't notice that
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Well duh - I've never heard of a medicine with a 100% success rate.
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Member Since: 2/27/2012
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Originally posted by Ina Garten
lets not lose our minds now
it was never advertised to be 100% effective. just go raw with other guys on prep who SHOW YOU their recently filled prescription bottle, and or guys who are undetectable. don't take raw loads from randoms who claim to be negative but are really infected, not being treated, and have viral loads in the hundreds of thousands if not millions. even on prep i personally still make guys pull out and nut in my mouth instead, it's much safer
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Oh, wow.
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