Lemonade is an incredible album. Like BEYONCE, Beyonce has writing credits on every song -- unlike her most of her other albums -- which shows that she is evolving as a songwriter. She is not credited first on any of the songs however; sometimes she is credited last. This shows that other people had a stronger input on songs than Beyonce.
How much of Lemonade do you think was written by Beyonce? Perhaps give a percentage as your answer.
Well, according to Jack White she took DHY and turned it into what it is. According to Mike Will, she wrote two verses on Formation. The 6 Inch demo is incredibly different than the finished product. The writer of Sandcastles said she rewrote the entire ending. She has the sole production credit on Daddy Lessons and made it the country song that it is.
Well, according to Jack White she took DHY and turned it into what it is. According to Mike Will, she wrote two verses on Formation. The 6 Inch demo is incredibly different than the finished product. The writer of Sandcastles said she rewrote the entire ending. She has the sole production credit on Daddy Lessons and made it the country song that it is.
Not to mention songs like Sandcastle and love drought were already completed songs being shipped around to different artist.
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“Sandcastles,” however, was originally about another man’s heartache.
Vincent Berry II promised himself it would be the final song he’d write about his ex-girlfriend. Little did he know at the time that such a painful chapter of his life would translate into the most successful moment of his career.
I think Beyonce is an idea person. She has abstract ideas and beautiful themes, and she just needs help crafting those into song lyrics. Songwriting does not come naturally to some people.. and that's okay. Bey still has an amazing voice and vision.
seeing as she has ZERO lead writing credits on this album. I doubt much.
This is not a thing. There is no such thing as a "lead" writing credit. You think people sit down calculating who wrote how many words or melodies or harmonies to determine the order in which to list names?
There is not a single songwriter that has EVER claimed that Bey didn't have an integral involvement with the writing. Some of yall seem to forget that songwriting isn't just about writing down the words. It includes melodies, harmonies, tempo, ad-libs. None of the songs would've ended up being the way that they are hadn't she taken part of the writing.
This is not a thing. There is no such thing as a "lead" writing credit. You think people sit down calculating who wrote how many words or melodies or harmonies to determine the order in which to list names?
MESS. yes there is. In songwriting the person who contributes the most to the song get's lead writing credits. Than it goes in order of decreasing contribution. Imogen heap has a writing credit on Clean but she said Taylor did most of the work and she did minimal changes. hence why Taylor name is first
This is not a thing. There is no such thing as a "lead" writing credit. You think people sit down calculating who wrote how many words or melodies or harmonies to determine the order in which to list names?
They do indeed calculate the percentage of how much was written by who, so that they can determine who gets what percentage of the royalties. Don't know/think the order has anything to do with that though.
(Usually writers share evenly when they calculate. Were there three writers in the room, they give each 33%, even if someone wrote more than the other)
There is not a single songwriter that has EVER claimed that Bey didn't have an integral involvement with the writing. Some of yall seem to forget that songwriting isn't just about writing down the words. It includes melodies, harmonies, tempo, ad-libs. None of the songs would've ended up being the way that they are hadn't she taken part of the writing.
So you think Beyonce is in same league of songwriting Like Mariah,Adele and Taylor?
As Beyonce worked on the project – she received “Sandcastles” in February 2015, Berry said -- the songwriter knew he wanted to keep ownership of the record instead of signing a publishing agreement, but that meant making great sacrifices.
“I wanted to own it and that’s a harder road. That meant being homeless and sleeping in cars and garages and studios and that’s what I was willing to do,” said Berry, who now lives in Woodland Hills. “I knew I couldn’t sign a publishing deal knowing what they are -- essentially a high-interest loan. Why would I take that kind of deal?”
On the final version of the record, which Berry heard ahead of the album’s April release, Beyonce wrote a more hopeful ending than the one Berry originally penned.
“And your heart is broken cause I walked away / Show me your scars and I won't walk away,” Beyonce sang. “And I know I promised that I couldn't stay, baby / [But] every promise don't work out that way.”
Daddys Lessons
Beyoncé is a scientist of songs. I’ve never seen anyone work the way she works. She definitely changes the song structures. She can take two songs, say, “I like two lines, I like the melody then let me use that for a verse and a bridge and write the whole middle.” It’s more of a collaboration. You never know what she’ll like. I came to her with a bunch of songs and she was like, “I like that verse, I like the idea.” But she definitely doesn’t take things as is, at least not from me.1 I came in on the Jack White song [“Don’t Hurt Yourself”] and helped finish it.
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You’d written Daddy Lessons before you worked with her?
When I played it for her, I was like, “This is one of my favorite songs.” [b]She was like, “This is my life.” I told her, “You know what, take it, do what you want with it.” She went and re-produced it, she changed some words, added the bridge, it’s hers. She didn’t talk to me about her father. We didn’t go into details. I see their relationship in the media just like everyone else. I watched the HBO special just like everyone else.
Formation:
Will later ran into Bey at a hotel-room hangout with LeBron James and the Cavaliers, he says. “And Bey was like, ‘Yo, I like that “formation” idea.’ And I told her what I was thinking about the woman empowerment, and she was like, ‘Yeah I kinda like that idea.’ And she just left it like that.” Although Beyoncé wrote new verses for the song, she built around the central mantra. “We were just thinking about it being a female anthem,” Will added. “Because I knew I just wanted a banger with Beyoncé, like a ‘Single Ladies,’ but I wanted it to be a new kind of chant.”
Will spent a week in the studio with Beyoncé working on the track. She “took this one little idea we came up with on the way to Coachella, put it in a pot, stirred it up, and came with this smash,” he says. “She takes ideas and puts them with her own ideas, and makes this masterpiece. She’s all about collaborating.” He added, “That’s what makes her Beyoncé. Being able to know what she wants. A lot of people don’t know what they want.
Dont Hurt Yourself:
You're a business partner with Jay Z in his Tidal streaming service as well. Is that how Beyoncé got the idea of coming over and ringing your bell?
You know, I just talked to her and she said, "I wanna be in a band with you." [Laughs.] I said, "Really? Well, I'd love to do something." I've always loved her voice — I mean, I think she has the kind of soul singing voice of the days of Betty Davis or Aretha Franklin. She took just sort of a sketch of a lyrical outline and turned into the most bodacious, vicious, incredible song. I don't even know what you'd classify it as — soul, rock and roll, whatever. "Don't Hurt Yourself" is incredibly intense; I'm so amazed at what she did with it
So you think Beyonce is in same league of songwriting Like Mariah,Adele and Taylor?
None of those mentioned above are any singular geniuses, they rely on the power of others to collaborate with them in order to create the best product. I really don't think it matters who does what behind the scenes, as long as we know the people that are doing it are getting their credit and the end result is satisfiying for the costumer.
