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Discussion: It's extremist Muslims, not Islamic extremism
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It's extremist Muslims, not Islamic extremism
It's not a quality in Islam that turns people violent, but the people themselves that are the problem.
It's not a problem within Islam per se; it's a problem with a particular mindset that a very few Muslims fall into. Such results communicate in very potently dangerous effect - so-called Islamic State and their attacks on Paris, Brussels – and the world
Identifying the differentiations within the Muslim community should better the fight against evil – Muslims themselves are, condemning the acts of violence in wake of the attacks in Brussels, as they did previously: 9/11 in New York, 7/7 in London, and most recently, 13/11 in Paris. " These terrorists do not represent Islam," say many key figures in Muslim communities.
But why do we not believe them? Is it due to ignorance? Are we ourselves hateful of a religion which has been proven to be of world peace, rather than the radicalised justifications that terrorists, who use propaganda videos to cohere the Muslim community as one, thus perpetuating the Islamophobia within western society today. Why are we so quick to blame all?
Share your thoughts, and please refrain from offensive posts and respect the Muslim community of atrl, or don't post at all.
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Dogmatic religions are violent by default, and people aren't so I agree.
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their the same, imo.
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Originally posted by Mr. Grey
their the same, imo.
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I'm Muslim and it is not same tbh.
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Actually, people who follow islam literally are the problem. The reason we don't see christians/catholics terrorists is because the followers learned to ignore all the absurd **** in the bible. Meanwhile, even the so called "moderate islamics" don't really disagree or question their scriptures.
Anyways I personally think all religions are poison but Islam is in fact 500 years behind any other religion on earth.
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Originally posted by Mr. Grey
their the same, imo.
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How so? There's many, many Muslims who condemn the acts of terrorism but for some reason, the western world takes the side of terrorists and believe that their actions are due to Islam. They're not - they're extremists, using Islam as justification.
My basis of topic is: why does the western society find it so difficult to differentiate those who practice their faith within our society and are bluntly, no problem at all, to those who are terrorists, clearly a radicalised group using religion as justification.
I feel it's very unjust for the Muslim community to be branded as such.
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But why do we not believe them?
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Because violent commandments throughout their holy book loud and clear?
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Originally posted by dreeam
Actually, people who follow islam literally are the problem. The reason we don't see christians/catholics terrorists is because the followers learned to ignore all the absurd **** in the bible. Meanwhile, even the so called "moderate islamics" don't really disagree or question their scriptures.
Anyways I personally think all religions are poison but Islam is in fact 500 years behind any other religion on earth.
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Just stop.
It's not Islam the problem here. It's just people who misintepreted and misunderstood with some words in Quran.
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Originally posted by Javan
Because violent commandments throughout their holy book loud and clear?
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So you're siding with a terrorist group who are telling you that acts of violence are within the Qur'an.
You're otherwise not listening to the billions of others who condemn these acts and are too, Muslims. Like many others who have been captured, tortured, raped and sold within the Middle East. Those who speak loudest not always speak truth, no?
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Honestly the religion itself is the problem. Some only follow it more strictly than others. Islam is a very dangerous religion to modern societies and will continue to damage and feel threatened by the modern societies that withold extremism. The religion itself preaches and wants its believers to convert others to the religion which can be seen in the opression of most christians in the middleeast. I just find the religion (like most religions) to not have a place in a modern society where we value freedom.
I actually was born muslim as my entire family is but honestly i'd change that in a heartbeat as well. The religion may preach freedom and peace but it has its cons as well. Like all religions. Critisizing Islam these days is so quickly seen as islamophobic but it also shouldn't be as we have freedom to speak our minds on things without being shunned.
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Originally posted by dreeam
Actually, people who follow islam literally are the problem. The reason we don't see christians/catholics terrorists is because the followers learned to ignore all the absurd **** in the bible.
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But we do, the media just doesn't call them terrorists
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Originally posted by Chanel4
Honestly the religion itself is the problem. .
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this
just 200 years ago christians were those kiling in the name of god... it's all just ridiculous...
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Originally posted by dreeam
Actually, people who follow islam literally are the problem. The reason we don't see christians/catholics terrorists is because the followers learned to ignore all the absurd **** in the bible. Meanwhile, even the so called "moderate islamics" don't really disagree or question their scriptures.
Anyways I personally think all religions are poison but Islam is in fact 500 years behind any other religion on earth.
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I agree with everything.
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There's a clear problem when it comes to them assimilating to western society and culture. Their beliefs and values don't align with western values in the slightest bit. And it doesn't help to see thousands of ordinary people on social media celebrating yesterday's attacks... So that just brings up a difficult question of who is extreme and who is not? Who can be trusted and who can not? Who can assimilate to western culture without a problem, and who will have trouble doing so?
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It is sad that people are discriminating against Muslims when ISIS can't even be considered Muslims themselves... they are Anti-muslim.
Side note: I have so much respect for peaceful religions like Buddhism, Sikhism, Taoism and etc. There is literally zero violence in their holy books. This is what we need. The holy books of Christianity and Islam are laced with violence.
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Originally posted by J a y
So you're siding with a terrorist group who are telling you that acts of violence are within the Qur'an.
You're otherwise not listening to the billions of others who condemn these acts and are too, Muslims. Like many others who have been captured, tortured, raped and sold within the Middle East. Those who speak loudest not always speak truth, no?
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Lord you're gonna keep jumping to Islam's defense every time the religion of peace slaughters people en masse aren't you? Why don't you offer condolences and move on instead of harping on about the West's bigotry? Disrespectful af.
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Member Since: 1/1/2013
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"These terrorists do not represent Islam,
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They do, though not every muslim's Islam... it's like saying Catholics, Protestants, etc are not Christian
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This thread about to be a huge ass mess where y'all expose yourselves
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Originally posted by LadyDiana
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just 200 years ago christians were those kiling in the name of god... it's all just ridiculous...
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About 89% of the world is religious, so why aren't we all dead? You yourself mentioned that some of faith killed in the name of God in past, but have now managed to integrate within our society. Does that prove that there are a majority of Muslims who aren't violent? Why have I checked social media and seen hatred against terrorists - misguided Muslims - and others.
Shouldn't the outrage be directed at those who believe in old testaments of religion (just ISIS) as they themselves are aware that their own communities differ in opinions (see: Shia Muslims) and they too are a target, as well as Yazidis & Christians.
Where is the intelligent argument to sustain this utter lie that all Muslims are terrorists? Where? I have yet to read it.
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