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Discussion: Is On-Demand Ruining the Hot 100?
Member Since: 11/27/2008
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Is On-Demand Ruining the Hot 100?
Ever since the On-Demand points started, the Top 10 on the Hot 100 has literally seemed like it just won't settle for anything new.
"No new entries enter the Top 10 this week" - do you realize how many times a sentence like that has been in a Hot 100 article....TOO MANY TO COUNT!
So many songs end up stalling outside the Top 10. The biggest epic fails being Rumour Has It and Birthday Cake, stalling at #16 and #24 for FOUR ****ing weeks and then FALLING afterwards.
Where Have You Been would have SO made the Top 10 this week...oh wait...ON-DEMAND **** blocked her from getting that Top 10 DESPITE AMERICAN ****ING IDOL PROMO!
Even though I hate this song, Boyfriend should have at least gotten that #1 with those 500,000+ digital downloads. Like seriously, Katy perry friggin' did it with 100,000 less. I mean, We Are Young sucks as well so it's like, why bother getting a good song go to #1 when you already have annoying **** that every friggin' idiot tries to sing their heart out to blocking bitches left and right from hitting #1.
Do I need to go on? This on-demand **** is just ruining **** left and right for other artists.
What do you think?
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Member Since: 5/22/2011
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I disagree with the On-Demand.
Should be digital sales + airplay. ![shake no](images/smilies/images/smilies/shakeno.gif)
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Member Since: 5/18/2012
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I agree with on demand. Airplay is inaccurate, its not what's truly popular. On Demand shows what people want. And good some songs don't top easily, this can allow labels to cater to people more directly. The last thing we need are songs deeply discounted to go to #1, you know playing the system.
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Member Since: 2/15/2012
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On Demand is a necessary component, like it or not. Just because it isn't friendly to pop bitches doesn't make it a bad thing.
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Member Since: 12/14/2011
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This thread
If you don't like the songs that are big on Spotify, deal with it. The Hot 100 is an accurate measurement of which songs are most popular, and this change has only made the chart more encompassing.
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Member Since: 5/18/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
On Demand is a necessary component, like it or not. Just because it isn't friendly to pop bitches doesn't make it a bad thing.
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Exactly, the Hot 100 has been getting BETTER quality songs on the top 10, especially new artists. Airplay is just forced by the media on what should be hot, but it doesn't make it popular. One Demand tracks the most POPULAR songs by the people.
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Member Since: 4/30/2012
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lol i love rih, but girl's conned her way into some number ones and so has miss perry. i feel no pity for those two.
on demand shows what people want
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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So much flamebait in the OP.
![Bibliotheque](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/biblio_zps23dff242.gif)
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Member Since: 2/15/2012
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Originally posted by lilostolemycoke
lol i love rih, but girl's conned her way into some number ones and so has miss perry. i feel no pity for those two.
on demand shows what people want
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 9/26/2001
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Quote:
Originally posted by CoolestPerson12
Exactly, the Hot 100 has been getting BETTER quality songs on the top 10, especially new artists. Airplay is just forced by the media on what should be hot, but it doesn't make it popular. One Demand tracks the most POPULAR songs by the people.
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Exactly. Streaming easily more reflects actual popularity amongst the most important audience (aka: the common person) than, say, airplay does. If you want to eliminate streaming, then, really, we should just remove airplay from the equation as well and make sales the only component used to calculate the Hot 100, as it was for many years prior. If you want to argue for that, hey, more power to you. But don't argue that it should be sales and airplay. Airplay has been an outdated way to determine which songs are popular for years now.
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ATRL Moderator
Member Since: 8/4/2009
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Actually, Airplay is the one that needs to be decreased in the formula.
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Member Since: 7/9/2010
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Quote:
Originally posted by CoolestPerson12
I agree with on demand. Airplay is inaccurate, its not what's truly popular. On Demand shows what people want. And good some songs don't top easily, this can allow labels to cater to people more directly. The last thing we need are songs deeply discounted to go to #1, you know playing the system.
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This.
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Member Since: 11/12/2011
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I think airplay should be taken out of the equation, since we all know it's basically boughten. The UK charts are so much more fun to watch, as songs are rarely #1 for more than one week.
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Member Since: 2/26/2006
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The chart has been so static since this new rule. It seems like the same top 9 for months now.
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Member Since: 6/16/2009
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Where you like it or not, Streaming is more accurate than Airplay but i do get your point tho
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Banned
Member Since: 10/28/2011
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What is the On Demand rule? ![huh?](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/7be5c36a.gif)
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
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The On Demand chart is prone to inaccuracy due to the fact that it measures the number of plays rather than the people playing it. Someone could theoretically play a song nonstop on their computer from Rhapsody or some other service, assuming it counts plays and not transfers of data since data is transferred to the user only when switching tracks, and make a visible change in the play count. It would take an organized group just 600 people doing this repeating technique, if done properly on the right services, to generate a stream count enough for a #1 hit on the On Demand chart, assuming Billboard still counted it. And they likely would, given that they haven't penalized campaigns in the past.
So if they change it to the # of people listening, problem solved and it's totally accurate. And necessary, since it would show what the people want to hear.
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Member Since: 3/30/2011
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Honestly, I feel like sales should be taken into account the most.
Then on-demand.
Then airplay (if none at all).
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Member Since: 5/18/2012
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Quote:
Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR
What is the On Demand rule? ![huh?](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/7be5c36a.gif)
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That streaming sites like Spotify will count towards the weekly tally on a song. So if a song got 300k streams and high sales it can debut high in the chart.
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Member Since: 5/22/2011
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With On Demand though can't one person just repeat the song non stop? If so that isn't that accurate of a way to determine what's popular. ![huh?](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/7be5c36a.gif)
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