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News: ‘No Blacks’ Is Not a Sexual Preference. It’s Racism
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‘No Blacks’ Is Not a Sexual Preference. It’s Racism
‘No Blacks’ Is Not a Sexual Preference. It’s Racism
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If you’re a gay man, phrases like “no blacks” and “no Asians” aren’t just words that you’d find on old signs in a civil rights museum, they are an unavoidable and current feature of your online dating experience. On gay dating apps like Grindr and Scruff, some men post blunt and often offensive disclaimers on their profiles such as “no oldies,” “no fems,” and “no fatties.” Among the most ubiquitous are racial disclaimers like “no blacks” and “no Asians,” which are most frequently posted by white men but, as Edwards’s case proves, not always.
Sometimes, men even use foods as metaphors for entire ethnic groups: “No rice” to deter Asian men, “no spice” to keep the Latinos away, and “no curry” to tell Indians they don’t have a shot.
Those who deploy these disclaimers defend themselves from accusations of “racism” by claiming that they merely have “preferences” for certain races over others. Wrote one gay blogger, “Don’t tell me I can’t have a preference! I don’t want to have sex with women. No hard feelings. Does that make me a misogynist?” Others have argued that it is impossible to separate the language of so-called sexual racism from racism in other spheres of life. There is a reason, they insist, that men of color are most often pushed to the sexual wayside. “No whites” is a much less popular slogan.
A new Australian study published in Archives of Sexual Behavior entitled “Is Sexual Racism Really Racism?” suggests that the answer to that question is probably “yes.” Sex researchers Denton Callander, Christy Newman, and Martin Holt asked over 2,000 gay and bisexual Australian men how they felt about race and dating through an online survey. These men also completed a region-specific version of the Quick Discrimination Index (QDI), a standard survey instrument that measures attitudes on race and diversity.
“Almost every identified factor associated with men’s racist attitudes was also related to their attitudes toward sexual racism,” the researchers reported. Or, phrased in a more optimistic way: “Men with more positive attitudes toward racial diversity and multiculturalism (on the QDI) tended to view sexual racism less positively.”
This correlation strongly suggests that racial discrimination on gay dating apps can be attributed to racist attitudes and not, as so many maintain, to benign aesthetic preferences. Sexual racism, it turns out, is probably just plain old racism disguised in the language of desire.
“While it may feel like our desires are our own, in reality they are influenced heavily by social norms,” explained Callander. “For me, the findings of this study are a reminder that even though society and individuals may actively reject racism, racial prejudices are increasingly subtle and they can find their way into even the most private and personal corners of our lives.”
The study also found that certain independent factors were associated with higher QDI scores and a more critical stance on sexual racism: a college education, past experience with racial exclusion, identifying as gay, and living in a more sexually diverse neighborhood. Other factors like being white and using online dating services more frequently were linked to lower QDI scores and a more favorable attitude toward sexual racism.
In fact, men who used online dating services more frequently were generally more likely to register as racist on the QDI, which might explain why a full 96 percent of the men in the study reported having seen a racially discriminatory profile over the course of their online dating experiences.
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Eric, who is mixed-race, told The Daily Beast that some men who list “no Asians” on their dating profiles have messaged him anyway, explaining that he is “white enough” for them or that he is attractive to them because he can “pass” as white. Eric confronts these men by asking them to explain in detail why they think he passes, a question that would require them to talk about his physical features in uncomfortable detail.
“I usually end up with a version of ‘I don’t know, you look kind of white,’ or ‘You seem white,’” he said.
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“The road to hell is paved with good intentions and ‘I’m not trying to be racist’ does not mean ‘I am not racist,’” Steve told The Daily Beast. “It just blows my mind that people could write off entire minorities without any exception and not see that as at all problematic.”
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Thread number 533.
Preference period.
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It's hard. I always try to be optimistic -- if someone says: 'no Asians, no blacks' etc then I just take it as a blessing that I don't have to waste time on this racist scum bag and just move on
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Originally posted by Lippy
Thread number 533.
Preference period.
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Y'all don't even read anymore
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"Preference" mean you prefer but are open to, saying "no blacks" "no asians" ...you clearly have a race issue .
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I have decided to stop fuming over racist gays. If they don't want to date outside their race, GOOD! More cuties for us open-minded gays. The new generations will just catch up to us.
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correlation ≠ causation
Any scientist will tell you this.
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Originally posted by stronger23
"Preference" mean you prefer but are open to, saying "no blacks" "no asians" ...you clearly have a race issue .
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This is the distinction.
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Originally posted by Lippy
Thread number 533.
Preference period.
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A study by professionals who devote their careers to such works says differently:
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A new Australian study published in Archives of Sexual Behavior entitled “Is Sexual Racism Really Racism?” suggests that the answer to that question is probably “yes.”
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Originally posted by B'Day
It's hard. I always try to be optimistic -- if someone says: 'no Asians, no blacks' etc then I just take it as a blessing that I don't have to waste time on this racist scum bag and just move on
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This.
Shows that you're actually racist and shallow.
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Referring to online dating, which is primarily used by individuals who want sex immediately. It's not a true reflection of the millions of homosexuals on this planet. If people spent less time judging life through a screen, we'd have far less issues to debate about online. Ironic, I know, but that's how it is. In real life, it is sexual preference. Noting 'no blacks, no Asians, no fems' or whatever else on your personal profile would be deemed discriminatory out of context but with an objective outlook, is actually much like real life - a sexual preference but with a blunt notice, including undertones of racism, stereotyping, etc.
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once this guy texted me (we are both white) and he had ''no blacks, no asians'' on his profile and i tried to convince him that it's racist but he didn't wanna listen. I then stopped the contact with that loser.
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I agree. Preference is something you prefer over other things. Saying no blacks means you're saying no to anyone of said race. However I do think that by having such preference you're not necessarily racist if you say no to most people who are not your 'cup of tea'.
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People who write things like this in their profile are racist losers anyway, nobody should waste their time on them
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I completely disagree with this.
Race is like a trait we have whether we like it or not. So is being well-built or skinny. So is being tall or short. So is having beady eyes, a long forehead or balding at an early age.
It's completely okay to not find men attractive because of such traits.
However, writing such information on a Tinder/Grindr profile is rude.
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