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Discussion: Rihanna and Katy, the future of pop?
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Originally posted by hausofbryan
You can't ignore the biggest superstar worldwide currently, that being Lady Gaga.
And Katy is hardly at the top of her game, check out that lovely TOTGA performance on X Factor. The song didn't even make Top 15 on iTunes in that country after that huge promo. (UK)
Rihanna is a big star, but she's been around for years. She's the present, not the future.
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She is not anymore. RIHANNA is the biggest popstar in the world right now 
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Pop music is getting easier. I don't doubt it.
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Originally posted by LeMews
Rihanna and Katy are what's "cool" at the moment. When listening to talentless ****s stops being cool, they will both fade away, fast.
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Originally posted by hausofbryan
And Katy is hardly at the top of her game, check out that lovely TOTGA performance on X Factor. The song didn't even make Top 15 on iTunes in that country after that huge promo. (UK)
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Uh, yes she did. And are we then going to forget about Ireland, how about New Zealand?
As to this thread, I knew it's fate the moment I saw the thread title. A bunch of stans putting down Rihanna and Katy because of something there fave does better in, typical. 
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Originally posted by MrHiphy
At the moment? Rihanna has been ******** since GGGB.
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Not true.
Rihanna's attempt at a mature era with Rated R completely underperformed, and she was even riding off the wave of her Chris Brown controversy. The general public isn't here for a 'serious' Rihanna.
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Originally posted by LeMews
Rihanna and Katy are what's "cool" at the moment. When listening to talentless ****s stops being cool, they will both fade away, fast.
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This board is so dense. I've seen this thrown around about Adele, and now it's being thrown around about Rihanna and Katy.  This same thing could be said about Gaga. I'd laugh if all three outlast Gaga.
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Originally posted by Sammi
Stop trying to make everything about your fave.We know who's the biggest attention seeking out of them? What would be your fave without her attention seeking outfits and masks?Are you kidding?
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And what would your fave be with talent?
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Gaga is giving me major Cyndi lauper teas.
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Allow me to repeat myself, the future of pop showed up in 2008 with a sound and image that changed the way pop stars do things these days.
You guys are confusing future with current success. Sure, none of the current girls are going anywhere, but only a select couple will remain while everyone else is forgotten. Who's going to be forgotten, you ask. Well, the ones who rely solely on their labels and producers to create music solely to cater to the public, aka, the people who move on ever so easily.
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Originally posted by Kats
Uh, yes she did. And are we then going to forget about Ireland, how about New Zealand?
As to this thread, I knew it's fate the moment I saw the thread title. A bunch of stans putting down Rihanna and Katy because of something there fave does better in, typical. :rollseyes:
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Hun, I hope you know that a song can be bought ten times in NZ and Ireland and make it into the top ten. Those countries are so tiny.
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Originally posted by I. AX
Gaga is giving me major Cyndi lauper teas.
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Cyndi Lauper is a legend and an icon.
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Originally posted by I. AX
She is not anymore. RIHANNA is the biggest popstar in the world right now |
lmaooooooooooooooo, when rihanna opens with less than 400k in a month or so, we'll be laughing at you.
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Originally posted by astronaut
Not true.
Rihanna's attempt at a mature era with Rated R completely underperformed, and she was even riding off the wave of her Chris Brown controversy. The general public isn't here for a 'serious' Rihanna.
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YUP YUP....
3.000.000 albums and 11.000.000 singles WW say the contrary
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Big difference between the two though, Rihanna's albums often praised by critics, Katy's are not.
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Originally posted by astronaut
Not true.
Rihanna's attempt at a mature era with Rated R completely underperformed, and she was even riding off the wave of her Chris Brown controversy. The general public isn't here for a 'serious' Rihanna.
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So did GAGA's whats your point?
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Originally posted by Lux.
'Judas' was a big hit? If you say so.
Alejandro referenced Jesus in the lyrics? I must have missed it.
Born This Way? "Cause God makes no mistakes".
You and I? Again, I must have missed the constant religious references to make the song a big hit.
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Judas went Top 10
Who said anything about lyrics? They said religious references. The Alejandro has A LOT of religious references... You know, eating rosary beads?
Born This Way video had religious references and I'm pretty sure she did some bible quote passage **** at the beginning of the video.
You And I references religion at least once in both the lyrics and the video.
Yeah, I'd think it's safe to say Gaga does the whole "religious profanity" thing A LOT. I don't know why one would be so delusional to argue with that.
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Originally posted by zzmyth
YUP YUP....
3.000.000 albums and 11.000.000 singles WW say the contrary
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Actually, by the standards of the era before and afterwords that was underperforming BUT that is only because people have such high-standards for Rihanna. She can sell albums and singles so people expect her to. Not everyone expects that from their fave even when it is their biggest album to date and has huge singles.
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Originally posted by Anthagio
Allow me to repeat myself, the future of pop showed up in 2008 with a sound and image that changed the way pop stars do things these days.
You guys are confusing future with current success. Sure, none of the current girls are going anywhere, but only a select couple will remain while everyone else is forgotten. Who's going to be forgotten, you ask. Well, the ones who rely solely on their labels and producers to create music solely to cater to the public, aka, the people who move on ever so easily.
Hun, I hope you know that a song can be bought ten times in NZ and Ireland and make it into the top ten. Those countries are so tiny.
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Well, then, don't make false statements. I don't care if they are smaller countries, you make it out to seem the performance did nothing,when in fact it did. Already in Top 100 in the US, with no promo. Get out with your Gaga rants, look at the thread title, hun.
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Originally posted by astronaut
Not true.
Rihanna's attempt at a mature era with Rated R completely underperformed, and she was even riding off the wave of her Chris Brown controversy. The general public isn't here for a 'serious' Rihanna.
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True, it underperformed. But Rihanna still managed to get 3 Top 10 hits, 1 of those going to #1. The album sold about 3 million (?) worldwide. If anyone else "underperformed", I don't think many of them would be able to still be as successful as Rated R was.
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
Pop music is getting easier. I don't doubt it.
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Yeah, I could totally see it happen. Just the thought of Katy and Rihanna dictating what happens in pop music is scary. I already don't like pop music much; imagine a future landscape full of Katys and Rihannas 
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Originally posted by Anthagio
Cyndi Lauper is a legend and an icon.
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She was a one album wonder 
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Originally posted by Kats
Well, then, don't make false statements. I don't care if they are smaller countries, you make it out to seem the performance did nothing,when in fact it did. Already in Top 100 in the US, with no promo. Get out with your Gaga rants, look at the thread title, hun. |
I said nothing about the performance. I said that a small amount of people can buy the song and it'll shoot up. A hundred people buying the song = fail.
No, Gaga fans have the right to bring Gaga up in this thread because of the title. Katy and Rihanna have never been referred to as the "future of pop," but Gaga has.
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Originally posted by I. AX
She was a one album wonder |
And Gaga has three massively successful albums, so what you said makes no sense.
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