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Discussion: Will you go to hell for fornication? (sex before marriage)
Member Since: 8/10/2010
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Originally posted by m-m-m-monster
Technically it doesn't even call homosexuality an 'abomination.'
Another belief of mine: "Man shall not lie with man as he lies with woman."
I think that passage is actually a statement about physiology. He's basically saying that gay people can't procreate.
I actually think God created gay people as population control.
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Can you explain this?
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Member Since: 7/12/2010
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Originally posted by BadBitchRihanna.
It isn't that complicated.... God created man to have fellowship and to enjoy Him forever.
Men are dead in sin and transgressions and estranged from a Holy God. God has reconciled mankind to Himself through His Son, Jesus Christ, and invites men everywhere to turn away from their sin, turn to God in simple faith through Jesus Christ, and to enter into the Kingdom of God, becoming born again by faith in the free gift of God received through faith in Jesus.
He has committed to us the message of reconciliation. We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God. God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
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This was very well said
I believe we're imperfect humans with a perfect God & Jesus is the bridge to balance out the two.
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Originally posted by Mąni Lιn`Dεε
I believe in Christ & his word .. so yea.
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Oh, in that case OK.
I believe we're born from nothing, and when we die we go back to nothing. What happens in between is a combination of hard work and luck. Heaven & Hell are cute concepts invented to keep people in check - concepts that people accept b/c it's nicer than reality: rotting under the earth.
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Member Since: 6/10/2010
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Jay
God isn't/wasn't human - to my knowledge. He/She/It didn't walk the very ground I'm walking.
He knows nothing of what our minds think or do. He/She/It preaches about what it doesn't know of.
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The bible's very calculated, and has been rewritten a number of times.
If something so inhuman existed, there would be evidence of it, no? You'll say Jesus, but common now.
Aren't these almighty's from before the people who thought the world was flat? Girl..
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God also gave us free will to sin or not to sin and i think people forget Adam and Eve were the first to abuse this. Now because of their sins we pay the consequences. It's like someone killing someone and then having to face jail time. Or a mother sleeping with a man and there kid turns out to be HIV positive. It wasn't the kids fault and yet they still have to live that disease. Same concept can be used in terms of Adam & Eve's sin. God created mankind to fellowship with him. Why would god wanna create a bunch of robotic people? That wouldn't make sense. He gave us all, each and every one of us a talent, a unique mind and the thoughts of doing evil or good. Obviously trusting & wanting us to choose to do the right way of things & not stray from him.
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Member Since: 8/10/2010
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
Oh, in that case OK.
I believe we're born from nothing, and when we die we go back to nothing. What happens in between is a combination of hard work and luck. Heaven & Hell are cute concepts invented to keep people in check - concepts that people accept b/c it's nicer than reality: rotting under the earth.
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So essentially, what your saying is that your an athiest? that's nice.
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Member Since: 8/10/2010
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Originally posted by BadBitchRihanna.
God also gave us free will to sin or not to sin and i think people forget Adam and Eve were the first to abuse this. Now because of their sins we pay the consequences. It's like someone killing someone and then having to face jail time. Or a mother sleeping with a man and there kid turns out to be HIV positive. It wasn't the kids fault and yet they still have to live that disease. Same concept can be used in terms of Adam & Eve's sin. God created mankind to fellowship with him. Why would god wanna create a bunch of robotic people? That wouldn't make sense. He gave us all, each and every one of us a talent, a unique mind and the thoughts of doing evil or good. Obviously trusting & wanting us to choose to do the right way of things & not stray from him.
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You need to be a youth minister or something.
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Member Since: 3/3/2011
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Originally posted by xdonna_fentyx
So essentially, what you're saying is that you're an athiest? that's nice.
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Problem?
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Member Since: 9/14/2010
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Originally posted by BadBitchRihanna.
God also gave us free will to sin or not to sin and i think people forget Adam and Eve were the first to abuse this. Now because of their sins we pay the consequences. It's like someone killing someone and then having to face jail time. Or a mother sleeping with a man and there kid turns out to be HIV positive. It wasn't the kids fault and yet they still have to live that disease. Same concept can be used in terms of Adam & Eve's sin. God created mankind to fellowship with him. Why would god wanna create a bunch of robotic people? That wouldn't make sense. He gave us all, each and every one of us a talent, a unique mind and the thoughts of doing evil or good. Obviously trusting & wanting us to choose to do the right way of things & not stray from him.
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I just mentioned Adam and Eve on the previous page, thanks for clearing that up
I honestly do believe in the myth (no disrespect) of God; I believe in the belief of him.
I'm more of the opposite, and I find too many answers to suggest natural, more than spiritual reasons for life.
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Member Since: 12/11/2008
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I don't think so...People will go to the Hell if do bad things in the life, and have sex before marriage isn't bad, even in the Catholic Religion (I'm Catholic, BTW)
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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Originally posted by xdonna_fentyx
Can you explain this?
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Well, if all of the gay people in the world were straight, they would be procreating. Our planet can only handle so many people.
God's solution = gay people.
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Member Since: 7/12/2010
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
Oh, in that case OK.
I believe we're born from nothing, and when we die we go back to nothing. What happens in between is a combination of hard work and luck. Heaven & Hell are cute concepts invented to keep people in check - concepts that people accept b/c it's nicer than reality: rotting under the earth.
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Ok well I respect your beliefs because I don't believe in forcing mines on others, but people need to have more of an open mind. It's going to be a lot of people regretting the choice to undermine God's existence.
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Member Since: 4/24/2011
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
Oh, in that case OK.
I believe we're born from nothing, and when we die we go back to nothing. What happens in between is a combination of hard work and luck. Heaven & Hell are cute concepts invented to keep people in check - concepts that people accept b/c it's nicer than reality: rotting under the earth.
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I've always had a problem with this concept, as well as the whole Heaven/Hell thing. To me, your idea makes more sense. It's just flat out, nothing around it, the way it is.
But then there is a side of me that wants to believe there is something more, but I've always had trouble trying to figure out what "that" is. Even through confirmation classes and such, I always questioned how all of it is possible.
In other words, I don't know what to believe. syduck:
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Member Since: 8/10/2010
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Originally posted by m-m-m-monster
Well, if all of the gay people in the world were straight, they would be procreating. Our planet can only handle so many people.
God's solution = gay people.
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Thanks
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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Originally posted by xdonna_fentyx
So essentially, what your saying is that your an athiest? that's nice.
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See, THIS is why people attack you.
Do I agree with Nicole? No. Not at all.
Do I respect her opinion? Absolutely.
If you start respecting people's beliefs, you won't get so much slack.
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Member Since: 7/12/2010
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Originally posted by m-m-m-monster
Well, if all of the gay people in the world were straight, they would be procreating. Our planet can only handle so many people.
God's solution = gay people.
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This has to be the most smartest thing I've heard in a while!
You are incredible
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Member Since: 8/10/2010
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Originally posted by RobynYoBank
Problem?
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None.
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Member Since: 11/24/2009
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Originally posted by xdonna_fentyx
So essentially, what your saying is that your an athiest? that's nice.
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Yup.
And if I were to believe in God, it wouldn't be the God written about in some nonsensical book that is full of contradictions and fantastical make-believe.
Do you believe in the Bible?
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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Originally posted by Mąni Lιn`Dεε
This has to be the most smartest thing I've heard in a while!
You are incredible
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Aww, thanks boo.
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Member Since: 8/10/2010
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Originally posted by m-m-m-monster
See, THIS is why people attack you.
Do I agree with Nicole? No. Not at all.
Do I respect her opinion? Absolutely.
If you start respecting people's beliefs, you won't get so much slack.
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I never said I had a problem with her belief, I dont. I just wasnt expecting that. Nicole gave me a different vibe when it comes to spirituality. I was surprised, but then again from the way she acts I should have expected it.
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Member Since: 6/10/2010
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
Oh, in that case OK.
I believe we're born from nothing, and when we die we go back to nothing. What happens in between is a combination of hard work and luck. Heaven & Hell are cute concepts invented to keep people in check - concepts that people accept b/c it's nicer than reality: rotting under the earth.
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I'll say the exact same thing i said to Miguel to you.
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Originally posted by BadBitchRihanna.
Look around you. Look outside at the earth and the trees and the air and the sun and everything else. How did they get there? What's keeping them there? It's God that's keeping them there, because think about it. If it's not God, then what is it? Who or what else could have created everything? Who or what could have created you? Who created you? Your parents. Okay, who created them? Their parents. You can keep tracing your ancestry back until there was just one human. Who created him? He evolved? No, the theory of evolution is a lie. The theory of evolution says that all of creation came from amino acids that were struck by lightning and that God had nothing to do with it. Yeah, where where did the amino acids come from? Where did the lightning come from? Another thing that's wrong with the theory of evolution is... evolution. Evolution over thousands of years is not scientifically correct. There are millions of fossils on record collected over thousands of years, yet none of them show any pattern of evolving at all. The fact is that you are too complex of an organism to have happened by accident. You consist of too many parts and organs, and tissues that are working together in near-perfect harmony too have been simply been thrown together by chance. God created you. You are not a product of evolution. You are not an accident. You are a beautiful creation of God Almighty.
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