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Album: Kelly Clarkson - 'Stronger'
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
everything has been in between 250k - 300k
She dosen't have the motivation or desire to be a big pop star anymore, so yeah I could see a 90k - 125k opening; in the current environment I struggle to see a song like Mr.Know It All smashing with the descriptions given. Kelly has a lot of problems with her marketing in my opinion and it has been evident throughout her career. She is wish washed as a different type of artist to the public, than what she presents in her albums. I really think they should have gone for an Adele like position this album, she needs to shake off american idol and really SUBG. OTHERWISE she needs big producers like Max Martin and Dr Luke to keep her relevant.
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We haven't even heard the album, so it's way too premature to be judging the material or her direction.
Why would she need to "shake off american idol and SUBG"? She will always be THE American Idol, she was the first. It's been 9 years... it's not like she's a rookie trying to make it. Everyone knows her already. Plus, her young fans that are 6-15 years old-- they weren't even born or remember her winning. Not to mention even though Idol's a joke now... over 20 million people still watch that show. She's not going to walk away from being promoted in front of 20 million viewers. Every mainstream artist is desperate to go on that show now, because like it or not that is the biggest show in America and Kelly will always have a spot waiting for her.
SUBG was on every best songs of the last decade list, why would she need to shake that off? A Day To Remember, Tokyo Police Club, and Girl Talk all cover that song still, it's clearly a memorable song in pop culture. And her biggest worldwide hit wasn't even SUBG it's Because of You, which has sold close to 10 million now.
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Hey, zurvivor  what's up ? Well it's still going to be pop rock but it's more pop judging by the leaks and the way kelly described the songs. Also some dance and soul influences. |
ok. her last era was good but the breakway was so great. i hope it is in between them.
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
Considering Britney only opened with 270k and Perry 190k, I think Kelly needs a big single to maintain similar numbers to her last four albums. Two singles before the albums release would be ideal, or even releasing a promo song weekly like Born this Way. However I doubt RCA will do anything that dosen't follow the usual formula.
Does anyone have all the comments in relation to this single? IE industry insiders who have heard the track?  |
A lot of y'all are forgetting that Britney only opened with 270k because she didn't promote ****, Perry only sold 190k because she is/was a single artist.
Kelly has a pretty sollid fanbase, all hte american idol fans and not to forget her recent smash with "Don't you wanna stay" !! Her fanbase has grown with some country fans and we all know they are buyers. So I am 100% sure that this will sell more then 200k in it's first week. Kelly has a pretty loyal fanbase. Her albums sales were always between 255k-297k so I don't think this album will become a exception.
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Well if Mr.Know It All is "pop perfection" and sounds like Just The Way You Are, I think we can expect a massive Pop/HAC/AC hit, possibly some country play too? And a tiny bit of Rythmic like usual.
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Kelly has great promo oppurtunities in the winter in europe and in america with the help of the X FACTOR.....hopefully
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Originally posted by Lady Killer
ok. her last era was good but the breakway was so great. i hope it is in between them.
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Breakaway era SLAYED. I would love another era like that. Sad part was none of the amazing songs went number 1, but we still slayed. 
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Its true, I am judging prematurely, but I like being pessimistic, because I will be slayed if my expectations are succeeded
In other thoughts, WDKY is my fourth most played song of the year, and Dark Side is number 12. Who else could not actually release new music, and be charting so higher in my yearly chart  Already Gone is holding nicely at #25, while Dumb + Dumb moves down to three plays at #5400.
Toby Glad slayed me with Hold Your Breath, I want a single like that
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What Doesnt Kill You is obviously on the album.
And I Forgive You will be to.
Let Me Down & Dumb+Dumb=You will most likely too, they're too good to pass up.
That's four tracks we've already heard, then we have Mr.Know It All coming.
The Sun Will Rise and The War Is Over are other titles confirmed on the album.
Tracklist isn't going to be much of a surprise :P
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kelly_clarkson Kelly Clarkson
My dog Security is pooped.
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And this is Joplin, the dog that never sleeps
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Originally posted by FAN
What Doesnt Kill You is obviously on the album.
And I Forgive You will be to.
Let Me Down & Dumb+Dumb=You will most likely too, they're too good to pass up.
That's four tracks we've already heard, then we have Mr.Know It All coming.
The Sun Will Rise and The War Is Over are other titles confirmed on the album.
Tracklist isn't going to be much of a surprise :P
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I can't really get into I Forgive You seems to repetitive. Although, has some great beats and vocals, I just hope if its on the album they fix it up a bit.
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Does anyone have the latest US numbers for.
Thankful:
My December:
Breakaway:
All I Ever Wanted:
Last time I saw numbers for All I Ever Wanted it was about 900k, I'm wondering if its any closer to 1 million.
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
Does anyone have the latest US numbers for.
Thankful:
My December:
Breakaway:
All I Ever Wanted:
Last time I saw numbers for All I Ever Wanted it was about 900k, I'm wondering if its any closer to 1 million.
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Thankful - 2,748,222
Breakaway - 6,172,459
My December - 817,910 (shipped a million records)
All I Ever Wanted - 918,292 (shipped a million records)
Updated May 26th 2011
SIngles :
A Moment Like This/Before your Love: 1,047,000
Miss Independent : 1,000,000
Breakaway: 1,413,000
Since U Been Gone: 2,274,050
Behind These Hazel Eyes: 1,059,143
Because Of You: 1,072,798
Walk Away: 1,100,000
Never Again: 1,000,000
Sober: 113,000
My Life Would Suck Without You: 2,378,393
I Do Not Hook Up: 690,000
Already Gone: 1,700,000
All I ever Wanted: 129,000
Updated Dec 19th 2010
I'm sure by know that Already Gone is pretty close to the 2million, which is also why I think the sudden $0.69 sale on itunes and waiting on certificating the All I Ever Wanted era.
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Artist, Song (spins for last 7 days)
Jason Aldean/Kelly Clarkson, Don't You Wanna Stay (6877) (#6 AC, #17 Hot AC)
Kelly Clarkson, Already Gone (1696)
Kelly Clarkson, Since U Been Gone (1191)
Kelly Clarkson, Because Of You (898)
Kelly Clarkson, Behind These Hazel Eyes (867)
Kelly Clarkson, Breakaway (794)
Kelly Clarkson, Miss Independent (794)
Kelly Clarkson, My Life Would Suck Without You (608)
Kelly Clarkson, Walk Away (504)
Kelly Clarkson, A Moment Like This (406)
Reba McEntire feat. Kelly Clarkson, Because of You (286)
Kelly Clarkson, Let Me Down (30)
Kelly Clarkson, All I Ever Wanted (28)
I can't believe already gone is getting played so much !!
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Thanks
Already Gone deserves 2 million; it is the best song from All I Ever Wanted and one of the best in her career imo. But have they certified anything from All I Ever Wanted? I wouldn't see the point of them randomly trying to certify Already Gone. The crazy thing is the song only peaked at #13, but it has stayed around for so long,
Do you think All I Ever Wanted will ever get to one million? I'm guessing it will sell 10 - 15 k following the month of "Stronger"
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
Thanks
Already Gone deserves 2 million; it is the best song from All I Ever Wanted and one of the best in her career imo. But have they certified anything from All I Ever Wanted? I wouldn't see the point of them randomly trying to certify Already Gone. The crazy thing is the song only peaked at #13, but it has stayed around for so long,
Do you think All I Ever Wanted will ever get to one million? I'm guessing it will sell 10 - 15 k following the month of "Stronger" |
Nothing of AIEW has been cerified that is why I think they were waiting on Already gone to pass the two million. RCA tweeted once something in terms "after her four platinum albums kelly clarkson is ready to release a new one due in fall" or something like that. So we do know that AIEW has shipped one million and they will certificate it. I think they will do it during this era to build hype.
Kelly has had 10 platinum singles which is damn impressive if you ask me, 12 if you include Don't you wanna stay and Because of you with reba.
ETA: And to answer your question, I do think AIEW will sell one million but not any time soon......
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This was already posted, but still 
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Originally posted by Kevinkdc
Artist, Song (spins for last 7 days)
Jason Aldean/Kelly Clarkson, Don't You Wanna Stay (6877) (#6 AC, #17 Hot AC)
Kelly Clarkson, Already Gone (1696)
Kelly Clarkson, Since U Been Gone (1191)
Kelly Clarkson, Because Of You (898)
Kelly Clarkson, Behind These Hazel Eyes (867)
Kelly Clarkson, Breakaway (794)
Kelly Clarkson, Miss Independent (794)
Kelly Clarkson, My Life Would Suck Without You (608)
Kelly Clarkson, Walk Away (504)
Kelly Clarkson, A Moment Like This (406)
Reba McEntire feat. Kelly Clarkson, Because of You (286)
Kelly Clarkson, Let Me Down (30)
Kelly Clarkson, All I Ever Wanted (28)
I can't believe already gone is getting played so much !!
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Let Me Down=SMASH 
I am not surprised about Already Gone it is still played a ton here
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This was already posted, but still |
My background mwhaha
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I'm expecting an opening week of 150-200K. Hopefully the hype she has earned through the country industry will help supply a few more sales digits.
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