Agree. Ken would have had a major shot in like, Africa, Australia, Borneo, etc.

Hannah's loss speaks a lot about gender and Survivor. When she blindsided someone, she was a flipper. When Adam blindsided someone, it was strategy. Unfortunately for Hannah, perception is reality and everyone perceived her as a neurotic, jumpy, flipper. She led with her quirky, immature personality to disarm people (and it worked! Adam, David, etc. all openly discussed strategy with her and thought she was with them) but that's all the jury saw. So it's on her for not communicating her strategy well enough to the jury while they were on the island.

Oh well though. Adam is still a good winner.

Congrats to my bae! He was the most deserving of the 3. Heartbreaking to hear about his mom. Every time he talked about how excited and proud his mom would be for winning immunity or when he was finding idols I was so sad. At least he got an hour with her. He was a bit of a mess during FTC but he had it in the bag already. He came off as the most sensible and strategic one. The others had bad social games and were plain stupid with some of their decisions. I think David would've been a better winner obviously. Adam made a LOT of mistakes and stupid decisions as well but hte decision to keep David so close to FTC killed Ken and Hannah.

Can we just talk about how amazing Jay is. He's such a stand up guy. He had the best reaction to getting played with a fake idol and took it all in stride. I would love to see him play again. Definitely my favorite of the season, along with Adam and Michaela.

Ken.. I thought people treated him a little unfairly during FTC. He must've had a horrible social game because some of them seemed really annoyed at him. What \ruined him though was because he preached endlessly about playing old school and being loyal and betrayed David last second. Probably made him out to be a hypocrite. Also he waited way too long to get rid of David which everyone saw was pretty stupid even David. He did win some immunities but he didn't form enough connections, I mean not even Jess or David voted for him.

Hannah.. also an idiot. I never deny sexism plays a role in Survivor but she did not play well strategically. She portrayed herself as weak and neurotic in the very beginning. That already hurt perception of her. Her decision to keep David as long as she did made her look VERY BAD. Ex: Brett and Sunday vote. Adam was very loudly expressing to the jury that he was gunning for both David and Jay. Which made him out to be the mastermind and get the credit when Dave went home. Even though Ken likely made the decision himself or Hannah convinced him. Brett knew Adam wanted David out and knew Ken and Hannah were the one's who stupidly made him so close to winning. Even David knew this. So they also could've told the rest of the jury how stupid they were which helped Adam. She also came across very bad during FTC by interrupting and yelling constantly. Made her look a bit desperate like Fishback 2.0 Might have been better if she was calmer while defending her game play. Also the fact that she had to defend her gameplay was because she made the mistake of not being more obvious about her strategy.

Idk wtf Chris or Bretts problem was. Why do they hate Ken so much? Chris campaigning for Adam was annoying but Adam was going to win anyway. Adam also would've won without the sympathy card which it didnt seem like he planned on using even when Jay asked him but David left him no choice. I mean Ken pulled the daughter card. Zeke is so pretentious and annoying and ughhhhhh. I hope he leaves FIRST next season. Taylor not being happy about his baby

Yeah, I loved Jay as well. Such a refreshing personality. He definitely showed his bad as well as his good side. Very authentic and it is hard for me to stan for a man in Survivor, but I stan him as well as Adam! Those two and Michaela are the only ones I want to see back.

Edit: maybe also Jessica

That would be awesome! We can do it on the Game Changers thread while waiting for March. I'd do it if I had a working laptop so I can make some graphics but I don't

The fact that Hannah played the SAME game like Australia's Survivor winner but Hannah didn't end up winning. I simply turned off my TV after Adam crying over his mom cause I knew he'd get votes. I feel for him but he doesn't deserve it all (in terms of game play)

Hannah is the new evolution in this game. It's not about creating big moves or winning challenges. It's about playing people, creating uncertainties to all allies that exist.

I didn't get Hannah at first. But her explanation at the final tc slayed me.

She knocked out Sunday who's on her way for a final tc goat spot.

Then she voted out Bret so she will be the safest one in final four and secure her position no matter who wins the final immunity.

Then she seduced and convinced Ken to betray David in final four.

She was so underrated.



But I still like Adam as winner. I think Hannah deserved at least four votes.

You should watch the latest Australian Survivor, the winner is literally Hannah


If it wasn't for Adam + his sappy story, she would've won, she truly slayed her explanation.

Lol the jury was already voting for Adam before they knew his mom had cancer
Hannah was socially and strategically inept which is why nearly everyone wanted to bring her to the end and why she got 0 votes

While I love Hannah, that is just unfair to Adam. He didn't need to tell his 'story' to win. Watch the Jury Speaks vids. He had it in the bag because he built personal bonds with everyone. Social game was on point, which was the opposite for Hannah.