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News: Trump says he is not aware of the hate crimes going on
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I can't wait till November 3, 2020
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Originally posted by KitKat
It's probably easier to support since you will never be pregnant yourself. Not that men don't have a say, but it probably makes it easier.
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You're actually correct. My mother and most women I know are pro-choice. I'm never going to have children, but I just say what I'm thinking. However, a child also has a father and he should have a say on it as well.
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Originally posted by opruh
Daddy Trump is busy devising plans on how to make america great again.
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Originally posted by Jan
Agree with everything. I have no stance on Obamacare, however, but I do oppose forcing people to do stuff they don't want "for their own good".
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Both of you, non-Americans, are really annoying and uneducated with all your trolling.
When 20 million people, including many with pre-existing conditions, lose their only available healthcare then we can talk. Nobody who has selected a plan through the ACA was "forced" to participate.
Also, Paul Ryan is proposing to make some drastic changes to Medicare that will leave many elderly citizens under-insured or completely messed up.
Also, people can be pro-life all they want, but the discussion goes well beyond innocent babies without a voice.
How convenient for gay men living in countries where healthcare is not as big of an issue as it is in the U.S. to be throwing their opinions into any debate about these two subjects.
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also said he thinks some of the protesters are paid, and wants people to "get to know him" better
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mess.
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A kii at the "non-Americans" argument. That's argumentum ad auctoritatem at its finest. So non-Americans are not allowed to have their views on politics but are criticised for it only when the other person doesn't agree? Mess
And about trolling, I am pretty conservative for a gay person and there's nothing wrong being so I've literally never degraded anyone for having an opinion, but heard the tolerant and progressive do so on every occasion. If you don't respect the other person, don't argue.
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Sure, Jan. You are very respectful. Keep doing you, baby.
Anyhow, best of luck to Mr. Trump. You can tell that he is beyond stressed out, as he should be. When the Mercers (a name many of you haven't bothered to even read about) force him to do many things that he doesn't support or agree with he will truly regret his decision for ever becoming involved in politics.
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Originally posted by Latinazza
Sure, Jan. You are very respectful. Keep doing you, baby.
Anyhow, best of luck to Mr. Trump. You can tell that he is beyond stressed out, as he should be. When the Mercers (a name many of you haven't bothered to even read about) force him to do many things that he doesn't support or agree with he will truly regret his decision for ever becoming involved in politics.
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I am very respectful and tolerant of the liberal philosophies in spite of disagreeing with them in many cases. If you feel violated by my opinion then it's literally your personal problem.
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Originally posted by xxtinaxx
You are not from here, so please stfu. Like more pro-life judges? He can go **** himself.
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Lmao at this post. Liberals hypocrisy
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Please read about the Mercers, y'all. Then you'll see what's in store for our country. It won't be Donald's doing, but this father and daughter team who will determine our future.
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Originally posted by Jan
I am very respectful and tolerant of the liberal philosophies in spite of disagreeing with them in many cases. If you feel violated by my opinion then it's literally your personal problem.
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"violated"
OK
Saddest part is that I don't even dislike you. I just wish you weren't so contrarian just for the kiis.
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The way right wing men talk about the issue of abortion will never cease to make my blood boil
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And about him just saying he's not aware of the hate crimes, that's the same tactic he used the first time he was asked about the KKK endorsing him. He pretended he had no idea what the KKK even was. Now he's acting like he has no idea what people are talking about. Cowardly, disgusting man.
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Hopefully things won't be as bad as we thought they'd be, it already looks like they won't be. Don't like him as a person but hopefully he will be passable in office. He knows how mad people are that he won the election, and hopefully will take that into account.
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Well if he's telling people to stop it, isn't that a good thing? Maybe the thing he could further do to emphasise that is make a public announcement. However I don't think his vile supporters will even stop regardless. They were like this before he was ever a thing and not even he can change them.
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Sounds quite reasonable to me.
And him telling people to stop the hate crimes is a good thing imo.
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Originally posted by T.C
Well if he's telling people to stop it, isn't that a good thing?
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I think it's a good thing as well. I think the reason some of his opponents don't like it is because it doesn't fit their narrative of him being evil, sexist, racist, homophobic, Islamophobic, etc. His opponents would prefer it if he openly encouraged hate crimes, but unfortunately for them Donald Trump is not that kind of person.
The sad truth that people can't avoid is that a very small minority of Trump supporters are being physically violent towards others, and that needs to stop, so I think it's good that he's said this, hopefully those people will listen to him and stop. Western society can be improved without being violent towards SJWs (as annoying as they may be, we shouldn't physically hurt them imo, most of them are just mis-lead and genuinely believe they're being good people).
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He can go on Twitter rants and threaten to sue whenever someone says they dont like him but hate crimes done in HIS name get no attention from him except a "Stop it."
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Originally posted by Pavement Princess
The idea that men want to revoke women's rights to their bodies cracks me the **** up. At Trump and some of you in here!!!
When do unborn babies matter more than actual women? It's also an issue of the mother's health, financial stability, and possible cases of rape. You DON'T get a ****ing say.
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I know of plenty of men and women who are very pro-life for religious reasons, they want to protect life and promote that throughout the country. They condone it only in cases where the baby is threatening the mother's health.
I'm kind of in between. I consider myself pretty pro-life tbh, also for religious reasons, but I completely get being pro-choice. I'm kind of torn because I completely agree with letting people do what they personally feel is right, but I also really want to protect life. It's hard to explain. I completely condone it in cases where the baby is becoming harmful to the mother's long term health (there are very, very few people out there who think otherwise), and rape is kind of a tough subject for me (but thankfully that accounts for less than 1% of all abortions). I just find it really really unfortunate how many abortions occur because of carelessness with safe sex or birth control in other ways.
Regardless, I completely respect other opinions with this, it's a tough subject.
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Originally posted by Toya
He can go on Twitter rants and threaten to sue whenever someone says they dont like him but hate crimes done in HIS name get no attention from him except a "Stop it."
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Then what the **** do you want him to do? Encourage it.
The logic
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Originally posted by T.C
Then what the **** do you want him to do? Encourage it.
The logic
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How am I wanting him to encourage it by saying his response was weak? Biblio at YOUR logic. **** out my face.
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
I know of plenty of men and women who are very pro-life for religious reasons, they want to protect life and promote that throughout the country. They condone it only in cases where the baby is threatening the mother's health.
I'm kind of in between. I consider myself pretty pro-life tbh, also for religious reasons, but I completely get being pro-choice. I'm kind of torn because I completely agree with letting people do what they personally feel is right, but I also really want to protect life. It's hard to explain. I completely condone it in cases where the baby is becoming harmful to the mother's long term health (there are very, very few people out there who think otherwise), and rape is kind of a tough subject for me (but thankfully that accounts for less than 1% of all abortions). I just find it really really unfortunate how many abortions occur because of carelessness with safe sex or birth control in other ways.
Regardless, I completely respect other opinions with this, it's a tough subject.
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This. There are reasons for an abortion: threat to the mother's health, incest, and rape. Ideally, abortion should be the last resort and avoided at all cost. A lot of people have the wrong idea of pro-lifers. The goal isn't to force women to carry a baby against her will, it's to change the woman's will... for her to see the value of a human life. There is a reason why most abortion clinics like Planned Parenthood refuse to show their patience their ultrasound, because they know they'd change their mind about the abortion if they did. Many women get abortions because they feel like it is their only option, many are pressured into doing by their parents, boyfriend, and/or society. This should change. Hopefully abortion become the exception in the upcoming years, with both men and women choosing to value life rather than discard it.
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