True. Some OGH's are not getting this.

At least some of us are keep classy. She won

Originally posted by lightstheyblindme so her SPS estimation increased but did her pure sales estimation increase at all?

Ahh, my f*cking fave WON



So proud of her

Originally posted by AALIYAH DANA at the monster celebrating in here like she's pushing BTW numbers. dddd at the low expectations for their fav. almost 200k in SPS is not good for artist like gaga who was once the biggest artist on the planet. the fact that lemonade debuted with 3x more sales when beyonce has been in the business longer than gaga

Originally posted by AALIYAH DANA at the monster celebrating in here like she's pushing BTW numbers. dddd at the low expectations for their fav. almost 200k in SPS is not good for artist like gaga who was once the biggest artist on the planet. the fact that lemonade debuted with 3x more sales when beyonce has been in the business longer than gaga

at OGHs who are willfully blind and ignorant to the fact that the music industry climate has drastically changed and with it the sales dropped, hence the numbers that Bey pulled at most, when she sold millions on 2014 or 2011.

Bey pulled those numbers in a year where the music industry hailed women of color which is good, I'm beyond proud of Bey, Lemonade showcased her power, her talent, her emotions, her legacy. The fact that Gaga is on the TOP 10 of the highest female debuts of 2016 next and under Beyonce is great, in such a year. Both of my favs stand on top

The fact that they accomplished the highest debuts of 2016 showing us that they're both a force to be reckoned with, she's not THE bigger, but she's ONE of the biggest, the 2nd in fact.

*Gaga does 90k*

with all these promo?

what a flop

She really is over

*Gaga does 130k*

Selling the same as Ariana?

"a flop"

*Predictions go higher*

the low standard for Gaga






Yall, just leave this thread monsters. We will never win

Originally posted by Archetype These numbers, like it or not, are actually impressive and prove that most of ATRL and OGHs severely underestimated Gaga. Joanne is an understated album, and Gaga has been letting the music speak for itself this time. We could unfairly compare Lemonade to 25, released by an artist who has been in the industry for a fraction of the time as Bey and still completely outsold her, yet that wouldn't make any sense due to the enormous differences in user base and music. The same can be said about Bey and Gaga in the year 2016.

Originally posted by AALIYAH DANA The music is speaking but the critics aren't listening. It has a 68 on metacritc yet they way gaga talked about doing "real music" and not csrkng

You said it yourself, it's 68.The critics ARE listening. It's a BIG upgrade from ARTPOP who had 30 critics and still got 60-61. Let's wait till those critics on the Joanne MC become 30.

Originally posted by CriticalHit Some of these Gaga stans acting like she's pulling Adele #'s... The numbers are okay for the music climate for an artist of Gaga'a caliber and the amount of promo she's done. The longevity is what matters more and if she can score some hits. I think she'll pull some good #'s for the Super Bowl, but that's it.

The lies, the attempt, the reach


The only promo she's ever done for this album until now is go to stores and make ONE televized performance