Discussion: Why ATRL discredits Beyoncé? - Page 2

willmcclure9

Because it's all media propaganda. No hits, poor album sales, her artistry = alberms written by 50 people. Plus she exploited BLM to get acclaim.

Dekkan

I like Bey. She is an incredible singer, outstanding performer, great dancer (even though I think her choreos got a little bit monotonous) and businesswoman. Not sure about writing or producing, so I won't touch that topic. But as long as she's credited, I take it as a confirmation. She hasn't had a smash hit since IASF era and this is a fact. She is bigger in America than anywhere else, too, but she's not local as some of haters like to say. I hate how media like to show her as a god. It's too much. I may look like a hater, 'cause I despise Lemonade, but I adored self titled. And I love using her to troll the Hive. They're insane.

She's fantastic. Not sure if ATRL discredits her, but does it change anything? It's just ATRL. Laugh at it, be messy and go on, there's a life to live outside the site.

Thank you.

Jet

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Originally posted by Nialler

Why would it not be ok to call out someone who is overrated by the media and the receipts are there? My fave sold millions of copies of Her self-written album.

You claim Beyoncé has no hits and no album sales. Obviously this is false and you don't believe these things, the question I'm asking is: why do you (or members similar to you) act this way? It makes no sense. Do you hate Beyoncé for real or is this just you trolling? Serious question

Nialler

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Originally posted by Shizuka

Yawn, as a Black woman she is allowed to address the loss of Black lives, considering she actually acknowledges those lives. Always tryna tell Black people how they should be expressing themselves.

Nice try!

Brinny Baby

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Originally posted by C.Damen

But you always discredit Janet Jackson and other female artists so you're in no position to even make a thread like this.

It's hypocritical.

Just keeping it 100.

THIS TEA!

Shizuka

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Originally posted by Nialler

Nice try!

Considering you didn't even try with this then yeah my try was very nice.

The fact you consider something from an 08/9 music video as the shutdown of a woman speaking on actual people dying LOL.

You don't even know what BLM is about, you think it's just "all cops suck and everything they do is wrong"?

Considering she said she doesn't want any harm to come to the cops in her letter and wants reform basically you again didn't even try.

Then there's the fact the BLM movement was heightened in 2013, that's from before it. Also did she shoot and kill this man while he was unarmed?? Hmm!

And since when does BLM mean Black people aren't allowed to be arrested at all?

Goodbye at this reach.

alkralkra

Doesn't matter, Beyoncé is a legend

C.Damen

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Originally posted by Brinny Baby

THIS TEA!

You shouldn't be cosigning because you are EXACTLY the same way.

Amour&Psyche

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Originally posted by Nialler

Because it's all media propaganda. No hits, poor album sales, her artistry = alberms written by 50 people. Plus she exploited BLM to get acclaim.

This tea.

MrLovett

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Originally posted by Nialler

Because it's all media propaganda. No hits, poor album sales, her artistry = alberms written by 50 people. Plus she exploited BLM to get acclaim.

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Originally posted by willmcclure9

Because it's all media propaganda. No hits, poor album sales, her artistry = alberms written by 50 people. Plus she exploited BLM to get acclaim.

The gag is that literally NONE of this is true.

Miley Cyrus

Her music is not as good as people would like you to think.

J a y

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Originally posted by Nialler

Nice try!

If I Were A Boy. Beyoncé plays the role of her male partner, a police officer and is seen arresting a black male which is more likely to occur in the United States as a result of prejudice.

Formation. Beyoncé plays the role of herself, a black woman of a community targeted and treated unfairly by law enforcement. She lays on top of the police car and drowns with it - a representation of the police brutality against black people and the deaths as a result.

You can rewind just under twenty years ago and hear Beyoncé speak of the importance she and Destiny's Child were aware of as young black women in the music industry.

It's like you were born in 2006.

MrLovett

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Originally posted by Miley Cyrus

Her music is not as good as people would like you to think.

That's entirely subjective though and not an actual fact. Critics and the GP seem to disagree.

Shizuka

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Originally posted by J a y

If I Were A Boy. Beyoncé plays the role of her male partner, a police officer and is seen arresting a black male which is more likely to occur in the United States as a result of prejudice.

Formation. Beyoncé plays the role of herself, a black woman of a community targeted and treated unfairly by law enforcement. She lays on top of the police car and drowns with it - a representation of the police brutality against black people and the deaths as a result.

You can rewind just under twenty years ago and hear Beyoncé speak of the importance she and Destiny's Child were aware of as young black women in the music industry.

It's like you were born in 2006.

!!

SpinThatShhh

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Originally posted by C.Damen

But you always discredit Janet Jackson and other female artists so you're in no position to even make a thread like this.

It's hypocritical.

Just keeping it 100.

BKTweets12

They can discredit all they like, she's still one of the baddest females in music.
This one site and its users isn't gonna change that.

Alejandrawrrr

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Originally posted by All In My Head

ATRL discredits artists that outsell their faves or that have more impact. Some members here are really delusional and can't handle the truth.

Everything you said is accurate, especially the bolded. It doesn't take long to see that ATRL =/= reality, especially with regards to some of the things y'all think are iconic and some of the people y'all think are legendary. It's kinda like an echo chamber where lies have been built up by the type of people to frequent this site as truths, people who disagree get laughed down and dismissed as delusional by the majority, and then when something which conflicts with the lie gets presented (ie: how beyonce gets treated in the real world vs. being a local, hitless, bionic and Britney Jean since 2008-level flop who is unknown outside of the US), ATRL users can't cope and lash out: "overrated! PR! Protected by BLM!"

To answer the question more directly, yes, many of the users here really hate beyonce, as evidenced by the dedication some have to run into her threads degrading her on a daily basis. It happens to every pop girl to some extent, but I think it tends to be stronger against people ATRL "doesn't see it" for, which tends to be highly successful r&b or urban acts who don't dabble heavily in pop or edm, male acts and/or rappers whom they don't find attractive, etc. Of course, some like Lady Gaga also get it pretty bad too (worse now, because Joanne's performance has been more "attackable" than Lemonade or ST eras so far).

It's all kinda unhealthy, and also ironic on a site that often runs to feminism to excuse their faves getting ****ed on stage or having sexual videos and material, yet spends all day denigrating, **** shaming, body shaming and just generally harboring animosity towards women

Fisherman

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Originally posted by Nialler

Because it's all media propaganda. No hits, poor album sales, her artistry = alberms written by 50 people. Plus she exploited BLM to get acclaim.

First of all her album sales are really good.
But if you wanna get to the core of this then let's do it, by the end of the day she's labeled as a 'singer' in the entertainment business, Beyoncé CAN SING amazingly, outstanding vocals, plus she can dance like no body else and put on a good show overall.
Meanwhile you fav is only a good songwriter, no shade but she's not a "singer", she can't sing, let's get real; nor she can dance, and her stage presence is distasteful; and she exploites her relationships to get acclaim and sale music.

Fisherman

The only female artists that are slaying atm are Beyoncé, Taylor swift and Adele; the others are flops. Bitterness, that explains it. Simple.

Jackson

Honestly she's not that successful. She's had like 1.5 hits this decade and her album sales are good but nothing special. Her touring is really all she has. I don't understand how she's created so much hype around herself without it translating into Adele type success but it's pretty impressive.