I don't think that BLM are responsible for the tragedy. But they don't help a lot too. Many times they come off as arrogant and loud /remember when they hijacked Bernie Sanders speach and attacked him when he was the only candidate that truly embraces racial equality and actually means it/

Police training needs to be reformed. And police should be responsible for their own body cameras. They should shoot to maim and injure, but not to kill in a lot of scenarios. If the suspects are unarmed, just tackle and detain. Do not kill. There should be stricter penalties against that. But the police departments can afford better lawyers, unfortunately. They're not an easy bunch to go up against in court.

My problem with Black Lives Matter (some of them), is that we talk about how blacks are murdered by the police, which accounts for 2.5% of those murders. That's completely FINE. I'm not in disagreement with that part. I was happy about it when I first heard of the movement. However, WHY can't we talk about the other 97.5% without being called "coons"? We can have both discussions at the same time. Those causes can easily coexist.

But yes, the shooter is probably the dumbest person who ever lived.

If the protest was successful, this little peaceful delight would have been a nice glory story to share and soak up some of the tragedy we've heard about in the last couple of days.

Idiot. Now we won't have ****. You made sure of that, didn't you?

The claims of BLM being "extreme" are just as extreme. Ya'll will post about the riots and looting, but won't mention the people lining up in front of store shops with weapons to stop looters and cleaning up after vandalists. That's the meat of what #BlackLivesMatters is.

Why focus on the fringe elements like they represent an entire movement. What's the difference between this and pinning all Muslims as terrorists?

I seriously don't understand how some of y'alls morals change between color lines.

The shooter wasn't even affiliated with BLM and didn't support the group. Maybe because they were a little too peaceful for his liking. But by all means continue to blame them for radicalizing his motives.

And then they'll tell us not all cops are bad cops.

Well behaved bitches seldom make history

Has anyone denied there are extreme black people in the organisation?

Same as extremeists in the media, police force, military,white people equally etc So what's your point?
Cause lord knows, what people want is equal treatment, Just because he is arab his a terrorist, a black guy his a thug, a white guy a young disturbed youth. Ummmm NO. How about they say, they all are disturbed individuals from this and that background, where they were psychologically manipulated or affected by certain factors, they faced since childhood.

From there we get to deal with issues and discuss them. So that preventive measures are put in place(such as better education systems, equal opportunity, better mental health awareness programs, deal with negative behaviours,bullying etc )rather than muffle other races equally crazy people, so that you paint the whole race as a stereotype and create frustration aggression, then the cycle repeats. Like its okay to generalise all of them and pretend that's what peace,liberty and integration is made of. Funny enough, you'll be the individuals protesting stereotypes in the media, when its affecting you but completely forget the next minute you were supporting bringing down another group. (Gay stereotypes, class issues, outsourcing by industries,religious stereotypes and the list is long but you all fit into one of the groups)

So many injustices happen but there is always ignorant people that are equally persecuted shutting them up, many people equally get raped in the military? They are paid dust by the media and as usual are ignored but guess what. The rapist is sympathised with, the victim is threatened and explicitly told, they are trying to ruin the other ones career. ((Respect our military please. Is the logo used, whenever a civilian tries to help the victim-The untouchable force as usual))

That future we claim we have arrived at, IS ALL A BIG LIE. Just the media chloroforming its audience each day.

I dont believe this. It fits the right wings agenda too perfectly

For the people who are truly unaffected by race, gender, or sexual orientation, it's not complicated.

Not all cops are racist, because I would hope the ones doing the "protecting and serving" at least attempt to be impartial, however the entire American policing and judicial system is historically rooted in prejudice. Slave patrols and Night Watches in the 1700s, which later became modern police departments, were both designed to control the behaviors of minorities (slaves). In 2016, it's clear there are still some racially motivated directives at play which orient non-racist police to carry out seemingly racist policing patterns. That goes to things like the "War on Drugs" and the targeting of black communities by city officials to supplement government budgets.

And that's what people mean when they criticize "cops". They're criticizing the institution that socializes them to see black people as the "enemy" in many places across the US. This perception and the targeted harassment is one thing, out of many things, the black community is still fighting to change today.

Yep! I just read this on the NYT that the shooter wasn't affiliated with BLM. So ATRL can stop jumping to conclusions before the video and/or evidence has come out.

An article that I previously posted here on ATRL to back up this claim:

The Fining of Black America

It's hypocrisy at it's finest. Always a double standard. Will say all immigrants are illegals, all Muslims are terrorists, all black people are thugs. But then turn around and preach about how not all cops are bad. No ****. I don't believe all cops are bad. However they are responsible for upholding the law and expecting them to do so isn't equating all cops to being bad.

So why didn't we do this before all of this BLM stuff happened? Someone made a thread yesterday about whites facing more police brutality or something like that... oh yeah? Well, why wasn't America as a whole saying anything before 2013? It just feels like no one would care about police brutality or go fetching for stats if blacks weren't vocal about it.

There's more white people in America, why not say something about the police brutality they see or face. Are they not capable of spreading things on the internet like wildfire? No one is stopping them to raise awareness. I'd love for this to be an American issue not just a black issue because I know it's not just blacks and latinos getting beat and killed to a bloody pulp unjustly. But don't wait until you're all fumed out to want to pull an alllivesmatter, you're only doing it because you're annoyed with black people on your feeds, newspaper and streets protesting and want to silence them.

The last paragraph though - the painful truth...

The unloaded the drugs in our neighborhoods and then turn around and blame us for the way the neighborhood functions. Blame us for the poverty. Blame us from the crime, while being undercover accomplices. And then turn their backs on us when we ask for help cleaning up the mess they helped to make.

I don't agree with the way they handled the Bernie Sanders event and just took over without asking him for permission. Old man Bernie is smart. He let them have their moment to speak and then they moved on.

Mess. I've never pulled an alllivesmatter before.

I wasn't saying we shouldn't focus on black police brutality. I'm just saying we are fuming about the things we can't control, yet can't look within our own community.

I usually hold my tongue about that, because I'm not going to go in a thread about an innocent black guy being gunned down or something. That's just disrespectful / distasteful.

& You may have misunderstood me. Not that the other 97.5% where non-blacks affected by police brutality, they were black murders from non-police brutality.