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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
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This is awesome  I love to see what an inspiration Hillary has been in your life & in the lives of so many people around America and the world  |
She really has I mean, she got me into social entrepreneurship which has become my passion.
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
He or she could be offering a different perspective. It's not like it would be difficult to follow along with how things are in the US. Plus every policy implemented in the US, even if its concerning domestic issues affects the world (See how the housemarket collapse affect the world economy and how the banks collapsing and the regulation it required contributed that.), which means every detail gets blasted internationally and allows people to learn about it and develop strong opinions on it.
Plus are you telling me you've never discussed/argued or given an opinion on domestic issues of outher countries? No one country? In the Middle East? In Africa? Europe? The US Presidential candidates sure do that regularly.
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This too.
Americans seem fine with wanting to discuss foreign affairs (particularly in the Middle East) but OH NO, nobody outside of the US can comment on their affairs, those people are just clearly uninformed 
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Originally posted by Jonna Lee
The idea that voting for a candidate makes no real change if you don't support a hierarchy of other like-minded candidates... so what's the point of being a candidate, especially one who doesn't want to identify with that hierarchy  |
What... are you talking about? It's not about a hierarchy If you want to see someone get their ideas in place, you're going to need to elect like-minded individuals to the other parts of government so that they can all work together to get those ideas working. People don't understand that, because if they did, down ticket Dems wouldn't have such terrible results. Y'all overanalyze EVERYTHING.
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Originally posted by Wonderland
On a lot of finer political points, I'd agree with you saying that. But for the most part here we're talking about the impact of policies upon society and believe it or not, that's a pretty universally accessible topic for most people and there's nothing about the US in particular that makes it different from any other western democracy.
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Not really... We're a LOT more conservative than most other western countries.
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
Plus are you telling me you've never discussed/argued or given an opinion on domestic issues of outher countries? No one country? In the Middle East? In Africa? Europe? The US Presidential candidates sure do that regularly.
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No, I have never argued with a citizen of another country about what their country is like.
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Originally posted by Wonderland
This too.
Americans seem fine with wanting to discuss foreign affairs (particularly in the Middle East) but OH NO, nobody outside of the US can comment on their affairs, those people are just clearly uninformed |
You're free to comment on our affairs, but when you argue on such basic ideas... That's when it just crosses a line for me. Earlier you said Bernie's ideas aren't radical. That might be true in many countries. Many people in this thread from other countries have flat out said that Bernie would be left of center there. That's fine and great and all, but he's completely a leftist radical in the context of the United States' political environment. That's not even me trying to take a stab at him. He's simply that left because we're a very conservative country when compared to many other Western societies.
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Originally posted by Bloo
Not really... We're a LOT more conservative than most other western countries.
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And look where we rank on listicles comparing any smattering of socioeconomic pros & cons among other Western countries...
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Originally posted by Wonderland
This too.
Americans seem fine with wanting to discuss foreign affairs (particularly in the Middle East) but OH NO, nobody outside of the US can comment on their affairs, those people are just clearly uninformed |
True. And the chances of Americans being misinformed about the domestic issues in other countries is much much higher than the reverse. Like it or not, every little issue in the US is news abroad as well.
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I'd like others thoughts about this. I keep hearing about Hillary Clinton breaking the ceiling for Women etc. But is she really? Is she really? She's not Elizabeth Warren. Would she be here if she wasn't Hillary Clinton? The wife of an ex-US President?? Did she really achieve this on her own or did she ride Bill's coattails to the WH and then launched her own career of his?
I keep seeing her pictured as this strong powerful independent woman. But eh, the truth is she's where she is because of a man and what he achieved.
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Originally posted by Bloo
Not really... We're a LOT more conservative than most other western countries.
No, I have never argued with a citizen of another country about what their country is like.
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Have you lived in any other country?
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Originally posted by ALIEN
Have you lived in any other country?
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I have not. Is that not true? That comment was coming from what I've researched, but if you have another opinion, feel free to share it.
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
I'd like others thoughts about this. I keep hearing about Hillary Clinton breaking the ceiling for Women etc. But is she really? Is she really? She's not Elizabeth Warren. Would she be here if she wasn't Hillary Clinton? The wife of an ex-US President?? Did she really achieve this on her own or did she ride Bill's coattails to the WH and then launched her own career of his?
I keep seeing her pictured as this strong powerful independent woman. But eh, the truth is she's where she is because of a man and what he achieved.
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girl you are treading shark infested and sexist waters! what matters is she made herself into a strong independent leader out of what she had (not sarcasm!)
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
True. And the chances of Americans being misinformed about the domestic issues in other countries is much much higher than the reverse. Like it or not, every little issue in the US is news abroad as well.
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I'd like others thoughts about this. I keep hearing about Hillary Clinton breaking the ceiling for Women etc. But is she really? Is she really? She's not Elizabeth Warren. Would she be here if she wasn't Hillary Clinton? The wife of an ex-US President?? Did she really achieve this on her own or did she ride Bill's coattails to the WH and then launched her own career of his?
I keep seeing her pictured as this strong powerful independent woman. But eh, the truth is she's where she is because of a man and what he achieved.
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Nah, regardless if she rode on Bill's coattails, she carved her own legacy.
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
True. And the chances of Americans being misinformed about the domestic issues in other countries is much much higher than the reverse. Like it or not, every little issue in the US is news abroad as well.
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I'd like others thoughts about this. I keep hearing about Hillary Clinton breaking the ceiling for Women etc. But is she really? Is she really? She's not Elizabeth Warren. Would she be here if she wasn't Hillary Clinton? The wife of an ex-US President?? Did she really achieve this on her own or did she ride Bill's coattails to the WH and then launched her own career of his?
I keep seeing her pictured as this strong powerful independent woman. But eh, the truth is she's where she is because of a man and what he achieved.
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This is moronic Yes, being First Lady gave her more opportunities and exposure. However, being married to Bill did not get her glowing reviews for her PERFORMANCE as Senator of NY, did not get her 18M votes in 2008, it did not make Obama appoint her Secretary of State and did not earn her even more glowing reviews for her time as Secretary of State. She's gotten the success she has had due to her own merits and intellect. Let's not forget, one of the selling points when he was running for President was that Hillary would be as involved as she was. There were literally ads that listed them as "two for one".
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
True. And the chances of Americans being misinformed about the domestic issues in other countries is much much higher than the reverse. Like it or not, every little issue in the US is news abroad as well.
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I'd like others thoughts about this. I keep hearing about Hillary Clinton breaking the ceiling for Women etc. But is she really? Is she really? She's not Elizabeth Warren. Would she be here if she wasn't Hillary Clinton? The wife of an ex-US President?? Did she really achieve this on her own or did she ride Bill's coattails to the WH and then launched her own career of his?
I keep seeing her pictured as this strong powerful independent woman. But eh, the truth is she's where she is because of a man and what he achieved.
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I hate to call something sexist since Bernie supporters love claiming that Hillary supporters call everything sexist, but this is a biT sexist... 
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good night election thread
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Ok, I'm #TeamHillary now 
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
True. And the chances of Americans being misinformed about the domestic issues in other countries is much much higher than the reverse. Like it or not, every little issue in the US is news abroad as well.
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I'd like others thoughts about this. I keep hearing about Hillary Clinton breaking the ceiling for Women etc. But is she really? Is she really? She's not Elizabeth Warren. Would she be here if she wasn't Hillary Clinton? The wife of an ex-US President?? Did she really achieve this on her own or did she ride Bill's coattails to the WH and then launched her own career of his?
I keep seeing her pictured as this strong powerful independent woman. But eh, the truth is she's where she is because of a man and what he achieved.
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A native of the Chicago area, Hillary Rodham graduated from Wellesley College in 1969, where she became the first student commencement speaker. She went on to earn a J.D. from Yale Law School in 1973. After a stint as a congressional legal counsel, she moved to Arkansas, marrying Bill Clinton in 1975. She co-founded Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families in 1977, became the first female chair of the Legal Services Corporation in 1978, and was named the first female partner at Rose Law Firm in 1979. While First Lady of Arkansas from 1979 to 1981, and 1983 to 1992, she led a task force that reformed Arkansas' public school system, and served on the board of directors of Wal-Mart among other corporations.
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This woman was the definition of high achieving and goal driven during the 90s. She was destined for success whether she met Bill or not in fact im confident that Bill would NOT have been the president without her by his side.
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Ok, I'm #TeamHillary now |
Welcome to the dark side
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wow this thread is so dark now i've been lurking for months but i'm ready for it to end. and by end, i mean hillary clinton to become president.
on a side note, i think it's terrible i have to feel like i'm going to be attacked viciously by my peers (18 year olds) whenever i dare say i prefer mrs. hillary clinton. 
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Originally posted by Dylan'
wow this thread is so dark now i've been lurking for months but i'm ready for it to end. and by end, i mean hillary clinton to become president.
on a side note, i think it's terrible i have to feel like i'm going to be attacked viciously by my peers (18 year olds) whenever i dare say i prefer mrs. hillary clinton. |
Hold your ground! Be proud of your candidate, as she is by far the most-qualified in the field  #EndCyBernBullying
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Welcome to the dark side |
He didn't say he was a Trump fan.
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