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Originally posted by Marvin
Well the DNC is just as messy so it's not really surprising.
Yeah it's been obvious for a while now  The establishment is making sure Hillary gets the nomination; good for her I guess. She won't win in November though.
I still hope Bernie gets the nomination and if not, just runs as independent. He can steal votes from Clinton and Trump.
Or maybe they just don't like Clinton? Would you vote for someone you didn't trust?
This sexism argument is SO stupid, especially when most of the people not wanting to vote for Clinton would vote for Warren. I know I would. |
I've said it numerous times, there are plenty of good reasons to prefer Bernie over Hillary, but we shouldn't let that distract from having a reasonable conversation about sexism. No, not all Bernie supporters are sexist, I bet almost all of them aren't. That doesn't change the fact that
sexism is real thing. It certainly doesn't stop when a women runs for president. It certainly doesn't stop when a woman is rich and powerful either. Hillary Clinton still experiences sexism. Bernie doesn't play the gender card and has a great record on gender issues; however, he still benefits for being a male and having his only competition being a female. He's not trying to benefit from being male, but he still does. That's called male privilege. Similar to white privilege.
Hillary benefited ENORMOUSLY from being white in 2008, even if she didn't try to illustrate that she is white and he's black (some people argue that Hillary to intentionally play into racism. Do you all remember that 3am ad? but that's a different argument) she didn't have to. Everyone could see the racial difference. It's as clear as day. And Obama still benefited from being male. He admitted this in an interview a month or so ago. He said Hillary had to everything he had to except in high heels and had to wake up a 1/2 hour earlier to get her hair/make up done.
Don't get me wrong, I disagree with Hillary on a lot of things, esp her old record regarding LGBT rights. That doesn't mean she deserves unfair criticism. She still deserves to be defended from sexism. I disagree with Sarah Pailin, Carly Fiorina, and Megyn Kelly on just about everything. However, I will still defend them from sexism, because
they don't deserve to be mistreated because they're female. What Donald did/said to Megyn Kelly was deplorable. Even Sarah Palin faced some unfair criticism. She deserved a lot of criticism and scrutiny, but there were some questions that were clearly targeted at her gender, for example one reporter asked if she was a bad mother for running for Vice President. Like what?
I get it if you don't like Hillary, that's fine. But to try to pretend to be objective and say Bernie is your #1 but Trump is your #2 that just takes so much objectivity out of someone's argument. I don't even understand how someone can not trust Hillary but trust Donald? He has changed his mind just about the same number of times Hillary has, except he changed it the wrong direction (from the point of view of Bernie being right). Hillary changed it to the right direction. I feel the same way when someone says they love Bernie, hates Hillary, but would vote for Joe Biden. Like he has the same god damn record as Hillary on all the controversial votes. You all like them because "they tell it how it is"? You are voting for a president not a damn reported. The whole "genuine" desire is a little silly to me. That's partly how George Bush got elected. He ran on a campaign of "who would you rather have a beer with?" Who gives a **** who you'll have a beer with?
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